Evidence of meeting #38 for Industry, Science and Technology in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Carl Cotton  Manager, Legislative and Regulatory Affairs Division, Program Development Directorate, Measurement Canada, Department of Industry
Mathieu Frigon  Committee Researcher
André Gagné  Senior Program Officer, Legislative and Regulatory Affairs, Measurement Canada, Department of Industry
Alexia Taschereau  Senior Counsel, Legal Services, Department of Industry

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

All right. So we'll go with the singular word “examination”.

Mr. Masse.

12:30 p.m.

NDP

Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON

Does that change the accountability to Measurement Canada at all?

October 19th, 2010 / 12:30 p.m.

Manager, Legislative and Regulatory Affairs Division, Program Development Directorate, Measurement Canada, Department of Industry

Carl Cotton

No, it doesn't.

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

Okay.

Read it one more time, Mr. Lake.

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

Okay.

The Minister shall ensure that, for each particular sector, all persons designated under subsection (1) are trained and qualified in the same manner, and that all examinations made by these persons are conducted consistently.

12:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

Do we have agreement?

12:35 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

No. I want to vote against the amendment.

12:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

Okay, then we'll record the vote.

12:35 p.m.

Liberal

Dan McTeague Liberal Pickering—Scarborough East, ON

Just so I understand, this is the subamendment by Mr. Lake, correct?

12:35 p.m.

A voice

Yes.

12:35 p.m.

Liberal

Dan McTeague Liberal Pickering—Scarborough East, ON

(Amendment agreed to: yeas 8; nays 3)

12:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

Mr. Wallace.

12:35 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Yes. On the amended motion, I'll be voting against it. I don't care if it's recorded or not. The reason is that I didn't get a compelling reason for us to do it. I think it's adding bureaucracy we don't need.

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

12:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

Thank you, Mr. Wallace.

Mr. McTeague.

12:35 p.m.

Liberal

Dan McTeague Liberal Pickering—Scarborough East, ON

I would go one step further and say you don't need the bill at all, Mr. Lake, Mr. Wallace. So we can all pack it up and leave well enough the way it is.

12:35 p.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

12:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

Mr. Cardin.

12:35 p.m.

Bloc

Serge Cardin Bloc Sherbrooke, QC

I didn't get the translation.

12:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

Mr. Wallace.

12:35 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

I find it inconsistent that an individual who spends much of his time criticizing the oil industry and the gasoline industry every week says we don't need this bill. I think this bill is important, and I don't think we need the added bureaucracy.

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

12:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

Mr. McTeague.

12:35 p.m.

Liberal

Dan McTeague Liberal Pickering—Scarborough East, ON

That invites the comment that many people in Burlington look at the site I provide for them. My information is probably a lot more useful than that comment. Actually, I'd put that to a test to the member of Parliament in the next election.

12:35 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

I appreciate that.

12:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

Mr. Van Kesteren.

12:35 p.m.

Conservative

Dave Van Kesteren Conservative Chatham-Kent—Essex, ON

I'm going to put in my two cents. We do need this bill. This is a bill that's been presented by the bureaucracy. These are people who are experts in their field. I think they've done a good job, and we're nitpicking on areas that we shouldn't be touching.

I agree indirectly with Mr. Wallace, but I'll be voting against this because I think this whole procedure is wasting an awful lot of time. This bill should pass.