Evidence of meeting #50 for Industry, Science and Technology in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was million.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Susan Bincoletto  Chief Financial Officer, Comptrollership and Administration Sector, Department of Industry
Robert Dunlop  Assistant Deputy Minister, Science and Innovation Sector, Department of Industry
Bruce Archibald  President, Federal Economic Development Agency for Southern Ontario

11:05 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.

Bonjour à tous. Welcome to the 50th meeting of the Standing Committee on Industry, Science and Technology.

We have with us the Honourable Christian Paradis, Minister of Industry. As well, I understand that Minister Valcourt will be coming shortly. We also have us with Mr. John Knubley, deputy minister; Susan Bincoletto, chief financial officer, comptrollership and administration sector; Marta Morgan; and Paul J. LeBlanc, president of the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency.

Maybe I'll give you some specifics today pursuant to Standing Order 81(5), supplementary estimates (B) 2012-13: votes 5b and 10b under Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency; vote 5b under the Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec; votes 1b, 5b, 10b, 35b, 55b, 60b, 65b, 70b, 80b, and 95b under Industry; and vote 5b under Western Economic Diversification, as referred to the committee on Thursday, November 8, 2012.

We'll let Minister Valcourt get settled, and we'll begin with Minister Paradis' opening remarks.

11:05 a.m.

Mégantic—L'Érable Québec

Conservative

Christian Paradis ConservativeMinister of Industry

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thanks to the committee members for your hard work. I'm pleased to be here today.

I will introduce you to my deputy minister John Knubley, who has been in office since September.

Congratulations.

Also here are Marta Morgan, associate deputy minister, and Madam Susan Bincoletto who, as you just said, Mr. Chair, is the CFO.

They're all making their first appearance with me in their official capacities.

I will ask the committee members to join me in welcoming them in their new roles.

11:05 a.m.

Some hon. members

Hear, hear!

November 29th, 2012 / 11:05 a.m.

Conservative

Christian Paradis Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC

I last appeared before this committee in March, in the context of tabling main estimates, and today I'd like to take this opportunity to update you on several fronts.

I wish to provide a brief overview of current economic challenges and key elements of our government's response to date, and then update you on three departmental policy priorities going forward: one, strengthening manufacturing; two, boosting business innovation; and, three, supporting the digital economy.

As I indicated the last time, as the Minister of Industry, I am responsible for a large number of different policies and programs designed to strengthen the competitiveness of Canadian businesses. In reality, we are working hard to fulfil our mandate in the context of a fragile recovery of the world economy. Businesses throughout Canada are still facing numerous challenges.

Our government understands these challenges. That is why we have taken action to promote long-term, strong and lasting economic growth and to promote the creation of value-added, high-quality jobs for Canadians across the country. When the recession hit, we made a weighty decision to implement our Economic Action Plan so as to support the Canadian economy.

Our government provided vital support to businesses and workers across the country when they have needed it most. This targeted stimulus plan worked: since July 2009, employment has increased by almost 822,000 jobs. This means more than 390,000 additional jobs now than there were before the recession. More than 98% of all jobs created since July 2009 have been in full-time positions, more than 75% are in the private sector, and about two-thirds are in high-wage industries.

Our economic output is well above pre-recession levels, and Canada has been ranked the first among the G-7 in tax competitiveness. Now that the economy is recovering, we are continuing to take action in key areas to strengthen Canada's economy and ensure long-term prosperity.

To support business, we introduced a hiring credit to help companies recruit employees and we are keeping taxes low and reducing red tape.

To foster an innovative economy, in the economic action plan for 2012 we committed $1.1 billion over five years to directly support research and development and make $500 million available to address gaps in venture capital. That will support the most innovative of Canada's firms and help them grow and create jobs.

To advance the Canadian marketplace, our government has cut import tariffs on manufacturing equipment and has been driving an ambitious trade agenda.

To strengthen our infrastructure, we committed $14.8 billion in stimulus. We recently announced the conclusion of an agreement between Canada and the State of Michigan towards building a new publicly owned bridge crossing between Windsor and Detroit.

Furthermore, our debt-to-GDP ratio is the lowest in the G-7 and we have kept our Triple-A credit rating. We have a clear plan to return to a balanced budget.

This progress has not gone unnoticed. Both the IMF and OECD project that Canada's economy will be among the leaders in the industrialized world over the next two years, and Forbes magazine named Canada the best country in the world in which to do business.

Within my portfolio, I emphasize support for the creation of jobs and for growth. During the summer, I took part in a series of roundtables with business leaders. Their point of view is that the solidity of the main economic indicators in Canada make it an excellent place to do business. The messages they sent me were clear: they want our government to seek above all to create an environment of international scope for our businesses and enable them to prosper more easily throughout the country. We share this concern and we are committed to creating the conditions that will enable businesses to invest so that the private sector can prosper and create jobs.

One of the key priorities within my portfolio is to promote greater private sector investment in the manufacturing sector. As you know, the manufacturing industry is very important to Canada's economy. It employs more than 1.75 million people, with 60,000 in research and development. It is the top sector for foreign direct investment and accounts for more than 63% of our exports. Almost half of our country's R and D that is performed by business in Canada is done by the manufacturing sector.

But this sector is changing and is facing global challenges. The economic slowdown, the competition from low-cost countries, and the accelerated pace of technological advancements are adding to the pressures of Canadian manufacturers.

In the face of so much change, our companies must be at the forefront of technological improvement and adopt new processes to become more productive and competitive. In this context, innovation is critical. Research and development is crucial. Developing new markets is imperative. Training workers in the skills they need is essential.

The recent improvements made in the Industrial and Regional Benefits Policy will guarantee that government defence procurement will generate some very valuable activities for Canadian industry. Measures such as these will also help Canadian businesses to be more productive, so that they be competitive within the world economy.

The aerospace industry is another element in the manufacturing sector that is important for our country. We are a world leader in the production of goods and services responsive to aerospace and space activities. This major segment of the Canadian economy generates $41.2 billion in revenue and provides Canadians with close to 162,000 highly qualified jobs, whether direct, indirect or induced.

The world markets for the aerospace and space industries are marked by very strong competition and are focused on the development of innovative technologies. To maintain their status as a leader internationally, Canadian businesses must continue to invest heavily in R&D. Canada’s aerospace industries have responded to this challenge by every year investing more than $1.5 billion in R&D in order to create state-of-the-art next-generation technologies.

Canadian businesses working in these industries are therefore among the most innovative in the country. In light of the importance of their sector for the economic future of our country, in February I launched the Review of Aerospace and Space Programs and Policies, for which the Hon. David Emerson is responsible.

This review aims to produce concrete and neutral recommendations on the financial plan about the way in which federal policies and programs can maximize the competitiveness of the aerospace and space industries. Mr. Emerson has worked in close cooperation with the Aerospace Industries Association of Canada in order to study the key issues. For example, innovation and access to markets and their development, skills development, procurement and development of the supplier network were among the topics discussed. Mr. Emerson is giving a press conference — it may be over by now — about this, in connection with the launch of the report.

Mr. Emerson's review also touches on issues related to the space sector. Canada has a long history of leadership in space, and this will continue. I recently announced that Canada intends to renew its commitment to be a continuing partner in the International Space Station. I am particularly proud that Chris Hadfield will become the first Canadian commander of the ISS during his mission, which is scheduled to begin in December of this year.

I look forward, as I said, to receiving Mr. Emerson's report today.

The manufacturing sectors also demonstrate the importance of innovation to the competitiveness of our businesses. That's why, since coming to office, our government has made science and technology a priority. We introduced this strategy in 2007, and it recognizes that innovation is driven by collaboration between researchers and entrepreneurs, and by commercialization of new technologies.

Since 2006, our government has invested nearly $8 billion to support S and T. These investments have made a difference. We have been able to support new world-class policies and programs, and we are working more closely with the private sector.

As you are aware, Canada must continue to work to improve in terms of business innovation performance. Business innovation is increasingly vital to maintaining both Canada's global competitive advantage and high standard of living. Despite the high level of federal support for business R and D, Canada continues to lag behind other countries in a number of areas: business R and D spending, commercialization of new products and services, and productivity growth. It was for this reason that we called for an expert panel for a review of federal support to research and development.

Through our budget 2012, the government has acted on many elements of the R and D review panel's advice by increasing support for high-growth companies, research collaborations, innovation procurement opportunities, and support to grow venture financing. Indeed, the budget is providing $1.1 billion for direct research and development support.

I would also like to talk to you about the digital economy.

Late last month, I had the pleasure of speaking to the members of the International Institute of Communications. As I said then, a vigorous digital economy is essential to our future prosperity. We understand the importance of the information and communications technologies, in which investments in R & D are the largest in the private sector. This sector supplies over 500,000 high-quality, well-paid jobs in Canada. ICTs are an essential element in our future. To become more productive and competitive, businesses in all sectors of the economy need ICTs. This is why we have taken measures to foster greater use of ICTs by investing $80 million over three years to implement the Digital Technology Adoption Pilot Program, designed to help small- and medium-sized businesses to adopt these technologies. It is estimated that this program should help over 600 businesses.

Similarly, through the Business Development Bank of Canada, we are providing support to businesses seeking to acquire digital technologies. We have taken a number of steps to increase consumer and business confidence in the online marketplace by modernizing the Copyright Act and passing anti-spam legislation.

As you will recall, earlier this year, we announced details for the auction of spectrum for the next generation of wireless networks that will help sustain competition and robust investment. After that announcement, another round of consultation was launched on the auction format and conditions of licence. The views we heard are being analyzed, and decisions will be announced early in the new year. We believe, with these efforts currently under way, that Canada has the potential to be a global leader in the creation, adoption, and use of digital technology.

In conclusion, Chair, I believe these initiatives will help strengthen the competitiveness of the Canadian economy. Taken together, they support our government's goal of generating jobs and growth for all Canadians.

Thank you very much for your time today.

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

Thank you, Mr. Minister.

I now give the floor to Minister Valcourt.

Welcome, Mr. Minister.

Please proceed with your opening remarks.

11:15 a.m.

Madawaska—Restigouche New Brunswick

Conservative

Bernard Valcourt ConservativeMinister of State (Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency) (La Francophonie)

Thank you very much.

Mr. Chair, members of the committee, thank you for this invitation. I would like to point out that I am accompanied by the President of the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency, Paul LeBlanc.

It is clear to us that ACOA plays a pivotal role in fostering a strong regional economy in Atlantic Canada in many ways: helping entrepreneurs to improve their business skills and productivity, supporting innovation and its commercialization, which we believe are the spearheads of economic progress, promoting the development and adoption of new technologies and processes, and helping to increase access to international markets.

In summary, to achieve these objectives, ACOA has three main programs: the Business Development Program (BOP), which provides repayable contributions to start up, expand or modernize small- and medium-sized enterprises; the Innovative Communities Fund, which allows us to make investments that lead to long-term employment and economic capacity in rural communities; and finally ACOA's third core program, the Atlantic Innovation Fund (AIF), a catalyst for private-public partnerships that drive research and development and its commercialization. Through this fund, ACOA has spawned numerous patents and licensing arrangements and attracted highly qualified researchers and scientists.

With these three programs that are financed through robust and predictable budgets, ACOA obtained very positive results in 2011-12.

I'm especially proud of the results from our Atlantic shipbuilding action plan, which was launched by ACOA to help communities and small to medium-sized businesses in all four Atlantic provinces benefit from our $33-billion shipbuilding strategy. This unprecedented investment will create jobs, foster innovation, and help build a world-class industry in both rural and urban communities in Atlantic Canada.

To date, over 1,000 small and medium-sized enterprises from rural and urban communities in Atlantic Canada have participated in one or another of our activities, benefiting from information and advice and making the business contacts they need to tap into this and other supply chains in the future.

Another tangible result of our Atlantic shipbuilding action plan is that SMEs have already started to take advantage of ACOA programs to obtain the certifications, equipment, and technology they need to ready themselves.

Over the past year, ACOA has also been very active in international trade. Last year alone, ACOA helped 200 small and medium-sized enterprises explore and diversify into growing international markets such as India, China, Brazil, and the Caribbean.

We continue to target lucrative markets in the United States, with excellent results. For example, a $140,000 investment by ACOA allowed a delegation of Atlantic companies to attend the International Boston Seafood Show, resulting in immediate sales of $5.5 million, with anticipated sales over the next year expected to reach over $8.7 million.

We have implemented a method for measuring the impact of the investments we make in such initiatives. The results show that we are really getting good value for the taxpayers’ investment in these initiatives.

Energy is another sector that holds great promise for Atlantic Canada, and the Muskrat Falls development in Newfoundland and Labrador is a prime example of such an opportunity.

Last September, I joined my colleague, Minister Oliver, at the national energy ministers conference in Charlottetown to announce the results of significant research undertaken through the Atlantic energy gateway. The research identified significant potential benefits from this collaboration among provinces, utilities, and stakeholders in Atlantic Canada, including the real potential for our businesses to develop renewable energy technologies.

I also accompanied a delegation from Canada to Dublin last October for the international conference on ocean energy. The delegation comprised some 22 companies and organizations, primarily from Atlantic Canada. Also, there I had the pleasure of announcing that Halifax will be hosting the next international conference on ocean energy in 2014. This is more evidence that Atlantic Canada and Canada are recognized as leaders in the ocean energy industry.

Some of the most exciting research and development in this field is being done right now in Nova Scotia. Few people over there realize the potential—even people within our own country don't—of the Bay of Fundy, which pushes over 160 billion tonnes of water on every tide. That is more than all of the freshwater rivers and streams in the world combined, and this within seven hours, so the possibilities for developers and researchers are exciting, as is the potential for the development of renewable power for generations to come.

As you may know, Atlantic Canada is also home to the Fundy Ocean Research Centre for Energy, located in Parrsboro, Nova Scotia. This centre is a leading-edge research and demonstration facility dedicated to tidal energy technology. Research into tidal energy is also being undertaken on the campuses of two Atlantic universities, namely, Acadia and Dalhousie.

Although I am satisfied with the progress of the past year, I am also aware that these exciting opportunities bring their own challenges. One of these challenges is the skilled labour shortage. If we are to take advantage of opportunities before us, we must ensure our businesses have the skilled workers they need to grow, to compete and to prosper. We need to make sure that our own citizens, especially our young people, have the programs and training they need to get those jobs.

Our government will continue to work closely with the four Atlantic Provinces, our universities and community colleges, industry clusters and our other partners to meet this challenge. There is no doubt in my mind that Atlantic Canada has everything it takes to address the challenges of today and tomorrow. And our government will continue to be there to help the region realize its full potential.

Thank you, Mr. Chair, I am going to conclude my remarks here and of course try to answer any questions from the committee members.

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

Thank you very much, Minister Valcourt.

Because of the timing, we'll have to stay pretty disciplined to get through our first round, so I'll go to Mr. Wallace for seven minutes.

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I want to thank the ministers for being here. It's not often that ministers show up for supplementary (B)s—I know that because I've been doing this for a while now—and I do appreciate it.

I also envy you: you are both doing an excellent job in both languages. That's a skill I will likely never to be able to accomplish, so I appreciate that.

I'm making the assumption for the questions I have that the Minister of Industry or the staff aren't able to answer questions about the National Research Council—just on the industry department. Is that an accurate statement?

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Christian Paradis Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC

Yes. I understand that Minister of State Goodyear will appear a little later on. He would be the appropriate minister.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Your estimates are in front of me right now, so with my time I'll have some questions about the estimates and maybe about your plans and priorities documents that you brought forward.

I have a couple of questions on your 4%, which isn't very much, really, to be honest with you.

There is one item here: “Internal reallocation of resources” of $8 million to “support investments in various capital projects including the acquisition of spectrum monitoring equipment”. This question can go to staff; it doesn't have to go the ministers. This isn't the first time we've sold spectrum. Do we not have monitoring equipment? Is this an upgrade? What is this for?

11:30 a.m.

Susan Bincoletto Chief Financial Officer, Comptrollership and Administration Sector, Department of Industry

Thank you for the question.

This is actually for a multi-year capital project to improve the way we modernize where we track the spectrum in Canada for the licensing and the certifications. It's called the spectrum modernization project—

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Right.

11:30 a.m.

Chief Financial Officer, Comptrollership and Administration Sector, Department of Industry

Susan Bincoletto

—and it's multi-year. This is really simply to transfer operating money to capital.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Okay. When did this project start?

11:30 a.m.

Chief Financial Officer, Comptrollership and Administration Sector, Department of Industry

Susan Bincoletto

Two years ago.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

So why is it in the supplementary (B)s? Why would that not be included in the supplementary (A)s?

11:30 a.m.

Chief Financial Officer, Comptrollership and Administration Sector, Department of Industry

Susan Bincoletto

Because our budget in capital is very small for Industry Canada, so we keep our leverage in the operating side and we transfer it year over year when we need it.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

So if I went to the main estimates, technically I could find this on the operating side in vote 1, and you're moving it to vote 5 into a capital piece.

11:30 a.m.

Chief Financial Officer, Comptrollership and Administration Sector, Department of Industry

Susan Bincoletto

That's right.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

You do have a capital piece in the main estimates, though, do you not?

11:30 a.m.

Chief Financial Officer, Comptrollership and Administration Sector, Department of Industry

Susan Bincoletto

Yes, but it's very small for Industry Canada, and this is a one-time—multi-year, mind you—big capital project.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

So when you say “multi-year”, will I see this transfer every year?

11:30 a.m.

Chief Financial Officer, Comptrollership and Administration Sector, Department of Industry

Susan Bincoletto

It's another two-year project.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Two years....

11:30 a.m.

Chief Financial Officer, Comptrollership and Administration Sector, Department of Industry

Susan Bincoletto

Yes. It is to really change the whole IT framework to actually modernize the way we can monitor and certify spectrum in Canada.