Evidence of meeting #106 for Industry, Science and Technology in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was going.
A recording is available from Parliament.
12:45 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound
As I understand what Mr. Turnbull is proposing, his amendment.... I'll let Mr. Turnbull read it, but that would be the full motion.
Mr. Turnbull, can you read your subamendment?
12:45 p.m.
Liberal
Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON
Sure. What I read would be the full motion as amended.
It would read, “That, in the interest of affordability for Canadians, the committee condemn any price increases by telecom companies in Canada.”
12:45 p.m.
Conservative
Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS
Okay. If I understand it, the original motion called for condemnation and called for a meeting. Mr. Masse's amendment added to that with a report to the House.
Your amendment is just a statement of outrage by the committee, which removes all of the other discussion issues, including a report to the House. I'm opposed to this subamendment.
12:45 p.m.
Bloc
Jean-Denis Garon Bloc Mirabel, QC
Would it be possible to get everything in French, before we move to the vote?
12:45 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound
Yes.
Mr. Turnbull, can you send the clerk the subamendment in writing, ideally in both official languages, so that the committee can vote on it?
12:45 p.m.
Liberal
12:45 p.m.
Liberal
12:50 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound
Colleagues, we'll come back.
I believe the text of the subamendment proposed by Mr. Turnbull has been sent around.
Colleagues, as we go forward it's important that, when you have an amendment, you clearly state what you're removing from the original motion. I say this for all members' benefit. It makes it easier to comprehend what we're actually debating and voting on.
We have Mr. Turnbull's subamendment. Are there any comments before I ask the clerk for a recorded vote on Mr. Turnbull's subamendment, which you've all received via email? Go ahead, Madam Clerk.
(Subamendment agreed to: yeas 6; nays 5)
12:55 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound
Mr. Turnbull's subamendment is agreed to.
We then have to vote on the motion as amended by Mr. Turnbull.
Are there any comments on the motion as amended?
12:55 p.m.
Conservative
12:55 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound
Based on the subamendment that was adopted, the motion would read, “That, in the interest of affordability for Canadians, the committee condemn any increases by telecom companies in Canada”.
12:55 p.m.
Conservative
Ryan Williams Conservative Bay of Quinte, ON
Mr. Chair, I'm going to make an amendment to add “and report back to the House”.
12:55 p.m.
Liberal
12:55 p.m.
NDP
Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON
I think I did include “report back to the House” in the original amendment.
12:55 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound
The subamendment was adopted, which narrowed it.
I'll receive Mr. Williams' amendment, which adds “and report back to the House” to the motion as amended.
It would read, “That, in the interest of affordability for Canadians, the committee condemn any price increases by telecom companies in Canada and report back to the House.”
Am I correct? That's the amendment by Mr. Williams to the motion as amended by Mr. Turnbull.
Mr. Turnbull.
12:55 p.m.
Liberal
Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON
I'm a little bit confused, Chair. Maybe I'll just ask for clarification from the clerk.
Would that matter not have been already decided in the previous vote, given the fact that there was an amendment that suggested a report back to the House, and then I made a subamendment to not include that? It seems like we've already decided that question by voting in favour of the last....
12:55 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound
Hold on for just one second, Mr. Turnbull. I'll confer with the clerk.
Mr. Turnbull, thank you for that point of clarification. It's a bit convoluted because your subamendment is to an amendment, and I think I will entertain the proposed amendment by Mr. Williams so that members can vote on it and respect the will of the committee.
Mr. Turnbull, I see you have your hand up. Go ahead.
12:55 p.m.
Liberal
Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON
Thank you for that clarification, Mr. Chair.
I think we need further debate and discussion on this particular item. I'm not sure.... I think that, based on what we decided in our subcommittee, which I think we achieved consensus on, it would be helpful for us to consider this and return to it at a later date.
I'm not prepared to vote on the motion as amended today. I wonder if I could move to adjourn today's meeting.
1 p.m.
Liberal
1 p.m.
Liberal
1 p.m.
Liberal
Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON
I'm sorry. I might not have been coming through clearly.
I moved to adjourn the meeting so that we can return to this.
1 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound
Okay.
This is a dilatory motion, so we'll call the vote on the motion to adjourn the meeting.
(Motion agreed to: yeas 6; nays 5)
We're right at 1 p.m., so the meeting is adjourned, colleagues. Thank you. See you Wednesday.