Well, it's just the irony of the situation that we're faced with here....
The carve-out, though, would be different: it would be us not removing the tariff from the asbestos. Currently you're suggesting that you've been ordered to negotiate the removal of a 10% tariff on asbestos. We could just take the position that we're not going to remove that tariff or not going to request a removal of that tariff. That's a benefit to them.