Yes, I haven't actually been given any specific directive in respect of the tariff on asbestos; I'm just saying that in the tariff negotiations, when they finally get going, the direction of the negotiations is to reduce and eliminate tariffs. With respect to.... Again, I don't want to get involved because I have no expertise in the matter of the various kinds of asbestos and the uses of asbestos. I suspect we're talking about different things in respect of the building that's being refit--
On December 1st, 2011. See this statement in context.