Evidence of meeting #15 for International Trade in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was ceta.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Jock Finlayson  Executive Vice-President and Chief Policy Officer, Business Council of British Columbia
James Maynard  President and Chief Executive Officer, Wavefront Wireless Commercialization Centre Society
Blair Redlin  Research Consultant, CUPE BC
Derek Corrigan  Mayor, City of Burnaby
Sav Dhaliwal  Councillor, City of Burnaby
Bruce Banman  Mayor, City of Abbotsford
Bill Tam  President and Chief Executive Officer, BC Technology Industry Association
Marianne Alto  Councillor, City of Victoria
Rick Jeffery  President and Chief Executive Officer, Coast Forest Products Association
Debra Amrein-Boyes  President, Farm House Natural Cheeses
Sven Freybe  President, Freybe Gourmet Foods
Stan Van Keulen  Board Member, British Columbia Dairy Association
Gordon McCauley  Chair, Board of Directors, LifeSciences British Columbia
Paul Drohan  President and Chief Executive Officer, LifeSciences British Columbia

2:40 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Coast Forest Products Association

Rick Jeffery

We would argue it starts when you start managing the forest, but that's—

2:40 p.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

I'm not an expert on this.

2:40 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Coast Forest Products Association

Rick Jeffery

What I will say is the traditional definition of it is you take something that has been processed in a primary fashion, so touched the first time, and when you touch it the second time, it's either secondary or tertiary manufacturing. That's what you'd call value-added—

2:40 p.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

In your presentation you stated the products from the high value would be the ones making the most money or being able to—

2:40 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Coast Forest Products Association

Rick Jeffery

Right, and that product range can be anywhere from a clear shop-grade board that you're going to send there that would be made into windows and doors, say, in Italy, to actual cabinets or those kinds of products.

2:40 p.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

What some people are afraid of is that we actually do send the boards to Italy and they get returned into windows, as you just stated, or furniture, or things like that. Is that inability we have in Canada not being able to export to Europe?

2:40 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Coast Forest Products Association

Rick Jeffery

There are a whole bunch of factors that go into that. If somebody can actually make money making windows and shipping them into Italy, they're free to do that.

2:40 p.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

Of course they are—

2:40 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Coast Forest Products Association

Rick Jeffery

What you find is that for those kinds of products, cabinets, windows, and those kinds of things, it's better to do that manufacturing closer to the customer. We're not very close to the Italians, for instance, so what we do is build our business around—

2:45 p.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

We find Italian furniture in Canada.

2:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Merrifield

Go ahead. We'll allow a quick answer.

2:45 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Coast Forest Products Association

Rick Jeffery

There are some things that you can do and you can't do. The point of the matter is that the supply chain in British Columbia is commercially driven. You can't legislate a value-added industry. You have to create the hosting conditions for an entrepreneur or a company to be able to go out and say, “I can do this.” So what we have on the coast of British Columbia—evidenced by 100 firms, 3,100 people, $1.6 billion a year in sales—is a very robust, value-added industry that's driven commercially.

2:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Merrifield

Thank you very much.

Mr. Cannan, the floor is yours for seven minutes.

2:45 p.m.

Conservative

Ron Cannan Conservative Kelowna—Lake Country, BC

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thanks to our witnesses. It's great to have some more perspectives on this issue.

First of all, Ms. Alto, as a former city councillor, I spent nine years in Kelowna city council, I was with UBCM, and I've had just over eight years now as the member of Parliament for Kelowna—Lake Country. I had the pleasure of being with Mayor Dean Fortin to do the groundbreaking for the Johnson Street Bridge, $16.5 million in federal funding. How is that coming along?

2:45 p.m.

Councillor, City of Victoria

Marianne Alto

It's great. We love the federal government when it comes to infrastructure.

2:45 p.m.

Conservative

Ron Cannan Conservative Kelowna—Lake Country, BC

Unconditional love, isn't that right?

2:45 p.m.

Councillor, City of Victoria

Marianne Alto

Absolutely. Much more than, I have to say, our provincial counterparts who gave us nothing.

2:45 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Coast Forest Products Association

Rick Jeffery

They've even done it in a manner where you can still drive over the old bridge.

2:45 p.m.

Councillor, City of Victoria

Marianne Alto

Thank you for pointing that out.

2:45 p.m.

Conservative

Ron Cannan Conservative Kelowna—Lake Country, BC

I see in your bio that from 1992 to 1996 you worked for the health minister at the time.

2:45 p.m.

Councillor, City of Victoria

Marianne Alto

I did. Wow, you've looked up my background. That's so exciting.

2:45 p.m.

Conservative

Ron Cannan Conservative Kelowna—Lake Country, BC

That was with which government?

2:45 p.m.

Councillor, City of Victoria

Marianne Alto

That was the NDP government in the 1990s.

2:45 p.m.

Conservative

Ron Cannan Conservative Kelowna—Lake Country, BC

Who is in government now?

2:45 p.m.

Councillor, City of Victoria

Marianne Alto

That would be the Liberals.