So out of 24,000 workers, how does that really relate? Is that something that you would see out of 24,000 workers on average, that you'd have a certain percentage who would come down with that type of situation? Because when Gildan was here yesterday, they talked about how they pay substantially higher than minimum wage. It might be done on a per product basis.
I know companies in Saskatchewan that make seeding equipment, they pay on a per product basis. So if you put out 20 shanks, you get paid 20 shanks. If you put out 15 shanks, you get paid for 15 shanks. You can call them widgets, whatever you want. Regardless though, the wage they get paid at the end of the day is substantially higher than what the minimum wage would be.
I guess I'm just kind of looking at what Gildan's been telling us and what you're saying and how do you reconcile that? How do you find the difference? Because when I look at Gildan there, I mean I toured the facilities. I'm sure if I took that facility after touring it there and went to a facility here in Canada, I probably would have similar statistics as far as repetitive motions and issues as far as health care issues and complaints against the company. It's a Canadian company whether it's based in Canada or based in Honduras.
How do you compare it to, let's say, an industry average? I'm just looking at Gildan because there are all sorts of other issues that I think if you looked at other companies in Honduras.... If there's a Chinese company for example, it may not even be concerned about these 30 or 40 workers, but if you went to Gildan, I'm pretty sure they'd say that they're very concerned and they're looking for a way to move forward on it. So how would you respond to that?