Evidence of meeting #50 for Justice and Human Rights in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Diane Diotte
Julie Besner  Counsel, Criminal Policy Section, Department of Justice

9:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Art Hanger

I call the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights to order with our continued deliberation on the clause-by-clause of Bill C-10.

We will pick up where we left off, which is at clause 14. Does everyone have their information in front of them?

(On clause 14)

9:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Art Hanger

There's a government amendment and that government amendment is inadmissible. Simply, there's no need for an amendment. You just vote against the clause. It does indicate that it attempts to delete a clause.

On the amendment—?

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

Marlene Jennings Liberal Notre-Dame-de-Grâce—Lachine, QC

Are we now at the Liberal amendment?

9:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Art Hanger

I am now on the government amendment on clause 14. If you're looking at your package, I think it's on page 4.

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

Derek Lee Liberal Scarborough—Rouge River, ON

Are you looking for a challenge? If it's out of order, why are we dealing with it?

9:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Art Hanger

It's inadmissible.

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

Derek Lee Liberal Scarborough—Rouge River, ON

Good, so we move on.

9:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Art Hanger

Yes, we'll go on to vote on the clause.

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

Marlene Jennings Liberal Notre-Dame-de-Grâce—Lachine, QC

Excuse me, Chair, I have a point of order. There is a Liberal amendment. Initially, the amendment was our amendment 18, which has been labelled L-6 on page 5, and the corrections by the clerk and researchers have been to make that amendment to clause 14 of the bill.

9:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Art Hanger

Ms. Jennings, that Liberal amendment is actually the next clause on the list, 14.1.

Mr. Comartin.

9:10 a.m.

NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

Are we voting on the government's amendment?

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Art Hanger

No. It's inadmissible. We're voting on clause 14.

(Clause 14 negatived)

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Art Hanger

The new clause 14.1—Ms. Jennings' amendment.

9:15 a.m.

Liberal

Marlene Jennings Liberal Notre-Dame-de-Grâce—Lachine, QC

I'll move a Liberal amendment, which is labelled as L-6 and found on page 5 of the group of amendments that the clerk has just passed out today. Essentially, these amendments would reinforce the provisions of the Criminal Code that pertain to the firearm registry.

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Art Hanger

This amendment actually seeks to amend section 117.07 of the Criminal Code, and we're actually dealing with subsection 117.01(3). For that reason, it's inadmissible, given the fact that it amends a statute that is not before the committee--or a section of that statute.

9:15 a.m.

Liberal

Marlene Jennings Liberal Notre-Dame-de-Grâce—Lachine, QC

I challenge the chair's ruling.

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Art Hanger

Challenge of the chair.

9:15 a.m.

The Clerk of the Committee Ms. Diane Diotte

Is the chair's ruling sustained—?

9:15 a.m.

Bloc

Réal Ménard Bloc Hochelaga, QC

Before we move to the vote, may I ask a question, Mr. Chairman?

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Art Hanger

What is the question, Monsieur Ménard?

9:15 a.m.

Bloc

Réal Ménard Bloc Hochelaga, QC

Mr. Chairman, you essentially said it is inadmissible because it amends a section which is not part of the bill. Is that the rationale behind your decision?

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Art Hanger

Yes.

9:15 a.m.

Liberal

Marlene Jennings Liberal Notre-Dame-de-Grâce—Lachine, QC

Point of order, Mr. Chair.

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Art Hanger

This particular clause or section is not amending any part of the bill itself.

9:15 a.m.

Liberal

Marlene Jennings Liberal Notre-Dame-de-Grâce—Lachine, QC

I have a question before we proceed to the vote.