Evidence of meeting #18 for Justice and Human Rights in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was need.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

John Shavluk  Law Enforcement Against Prohibition (LEAP)
Kirk Tousaw  Board Member, Chair, Drug Policy Committee, BC Civil Liberties Association
Mani Amar  Filmmaker, As an Individual
Tony Helary  As an Individual
Marco Mendicino  Acting President, Association of Justice Counsel
Dianne L. Watts  Mayor, City of Surrey
Lois E. Jackson  Mayor of the Corporation of Delta; Chair of the Board of Directors, Mayors' Committee, Metro Vancouver
Gregor Robertson  Mayor, City of Vancouver
Peter Fassbender  Mayor, City of Langley
Darryl Plecas  Royal Canadian Mounted Police Research Chair and Director of the Centre for Criminal Justice Research, School of Criminology and Criminal Justice, University College of the Fraser Valley, As an Individual
Ray Hudson  Policy Development and Communication, Surrey Board of Trade
Shannon Renault  Manager, Policy Development and Communications, Greater Victoria Chamber of Commerce
Weldon LeBlanc  Chief Executive Officer, Kelowna Chamber of Commerce
Jim Cessford  Chief Constable, Corporation of Delta
Len Garis  Chief, Surrey Fire Services
Ken Rafuse  As an Individual
Bert Holifield  As an Individual
Elli Holifield  As an Individual
Michèle Holifield  As an Individual

6:50 p.m.

Mayor of the Corporation of Delta; Chair of the Board of Directors, Mayors' Committee, Metro Vancouver

Lois E. Jackson

Legalize, did you say?

6:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

Legalize.

I want to know from you, as municipal representatives here, chambers of commerce, criminologists, are you in favour of legalizing any of those drugs?

6:50 p.m.

Mayor of the Corporation of Delta; Chair of the Board of Directors, Mayors' Committee, Metro Vancouver

Lois E. Jackson

Absolutely not.

6:55 p.m.

Mayor, City of Surrey

Dianne L. Watts

Absolutely not. Hopefully, we're clear.

6:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

All right, we got two there.

6:55 p.m.

Royal Canadian Mounted Police Research Chair and Director of the Centre for Criminal Justice Research, School of Criminology and Criminal Justice, University College of the Fraser Valley, As an Individual

Dr. Darryl Plecas

There's no doubt that would be an absolutely stupid thing to do, for a number of reasons.

6:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

All right.

Ms. Renault.

6:55 p.m.

Manager, Policy Development and Communications, Greater Victoria Chamber of Commerce

Shannon Renault

You know, we have started looking at it, and, in consultation with our police force, it's not something that they would want to see happen in our region.

6:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

Okay, thank you.

Mr. Garis.

6:55 p.m.

Chief, Surrey Fire Services

Len Garis

Absolutely not.

6:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

Mr. Hudson.

6:55 p.m.

Policy Development and Communication, Surrey Board of Trade

Ray Hudson

Absolutely not.

6:55 p.m.

Chief Executive Officer, Kelowna Chamber of Commerce

Weldon LeBlanc

Absolutely not.

6:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

All right. Well, it appears there's consensus there.

Thank you so much.

Yes, quickly.

6:55 p.m.

Mayor of the Corporation of Delta; Chair of the Board of Directors, Mayors' Committee, Metro Vancouver

Lois E. Jackson

I have one question, if I could, Mr. Chair.

I understand you're going to be wrapping up and putting a paper together, a position paper. Is there a possibility, if we get our paper together, that we can forward that to you?

6:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

Absolutely.

6:55 p.m.

Mayor of the Corporation of Delta; Chair of the Board of Directors, Mayors' Committee, Metro Vancouver

Lois E. Jackson

I'm wondering what your deadline would be for that.

6:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

Quite a ways down the road. My guess is we won't even be able to provide instructions for a report until well into the fall. That's my guess, because we have other bills that we have to review.

This is probably going to be well into the fall before we do this, so you've got time. Any written submissions you want to make that supplement what you've said today, please get it to our clerk, Miriam Burke. We'll get it translated and out to our members.

6:55 p.m.

Mayor of the Corporation of Delta; Chair of the Board of Directors, Mayors' Committee, Metro Vancouver

Lois E. Jackson

Thank you.

Mayor Watts, Mayor Robertson, Mayor Fassbender, Mayor Corrigan from Burnaby, and I are undertaking all of this work and we're hoping to have it completed so that all of the mayors in the region can approve what we're going to be sending to you. It will hopefully be a document that you will be able to use, and we hope you can carry on with that.

6:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

Thank you.

Mayor Fassbender.

6:55 p.m.

Mayor, City of Langley

Peter Fassbender

I would just make one other quick point, because of the back and forth, the issues, and one of the comments that was made.

I would urge the members of the government on both sides of the House to encourage changes to existing regulations that are easy and fast to do, because we know how long it takes for legislation. I have a problem with that myself, but that's reality. But look at the things that you can do in the short term that at least start to give us the tools that can start to make a difference in our communities.

The difference between us and what you're dealing with is if we see a problem, we go out, roll up our sleeves, and fix it. And we fix it tomorrow. Our police departments, our fire chiefs, everyone says we're going to get this problem fixed and we're going to do it in a hurry. I believe there are even small steps that could be taken in the short term to change regulations or some of those other things that could start to make a difference while the legislation is being reviewed and changed. And that's what we're also asking for. Let's do the things we can do quickly now, and let's do the big-picture issues as we move forward.

6:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

Point well taken.

6:55 p.m.

Mayor, City of Surrey

Dianne L. Watts

We're here to help, whatever you need.

6:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

Yes, thank you.

6:55 p.m.

Mayor of the Corporation of Delta; Chair of the Board of Directors, Mayors' Committee, Metro Vancouver

Lois E. Jackson

As long as you're here to help—