Evidence of meeting #14 for Justice and Human Rights in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was clause.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Daryl Churney  Director, Corrections Policy, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

We're now dealing with clause 117. I'm sorry.

All of us can make mistakes.

4:30 p.m.

NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

All of us can. I've never claimed to be perfect, Madam Chair—Mr. Chair.

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Madam Chair?

4:35 p.m.

NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

Madam Chair? I was looking past you.

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

Kerry-Lynne Findlay Conservative Delta—Richmond East, BC

David, you need a haircut.

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

We've been here too long—but you're not my type.

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

Kerry-Lynne Findlay Conservative Delta—Richmond East, BC

For the record.

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

For the record.

4:35 p.m.

NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

We again see the words “record suspension” appearing several times in clause 117 and will therefore be opposing that particular section.

(Clause 117 agreed to)

(On clause 118)

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Mr. Harris.

4:35 p.m.

NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

Once again, Chair, it gives the executive committee power to adopt rules with respect to record suspension, so we'll be voting against it.

(Clause 118 agreed to)

(On clause 119)

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Mr. Harris.

4:35 p.m.

NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

This removes the provision of referring to pardons in the heading, so we vote against this as well.

(Clause 119 agreed to)

(On clause 120)

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Mr. Harris.

4:35 p.m.

NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

Once again, we'd say the same thing, in approximately four seconds.

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Thank you.

(Clause 120 agreed to)

(On clause 121)

If you'll move NDP-40, Mr. Harris, I have another ruling for you. It's an awful lot like the other three.

4:35 p.m.

NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

I'd be very happy to move NDP-40—

4:35 p.m.

NDP

Françoise Boivin NDP Gatineau, QC

Speak slowly.

4:35 p.m.

NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

—because I hope the wisdom of our position may yet meet with some support.

We're moving to amend clause 121 by replacing line 33 with the following:

who has received a pardon under section 4.1 or

That's our amendment.

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Well, for the same reasons as for NDP-30, NDP-33, and NDP-39, in the opinion of the chair the deletion of a key element is contrary to the principle of Bill C-10 and is therefore inadmissible, sir.

So we can debate clause 121.

4:35 p.m.

NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

Yes. Well, I'm not going to engage in significant debate on 121. We are opposed to this amendment. We are opposed to all of the amendments that change “pardon” to “record suspension”. We think it's important that we keep that.

(Clause 121 agreed to)

(On clause 122)

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Mr. Harris.

4:35 p.m.

NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

For the same reason, we oppose.

(Clause 122 agreed to)

(On clause 123)

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Shall clause 123 carry?

4:35 p.m.

NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

Are you allowing me to speak to it or did you take the vote?

You're moving very fast here.