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Evidence of meeting #73 for Justice and Human Rights in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was shall.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Evidence of meeting #73 for Justice and Human Rights in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was shall.
A recording is available from Parliament.
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Some hon. members
No.
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Conservative
Rob Moore Conservative Fundy Royal, NB
I wasn't able to ascertain on that last one whether it carried or didn't carry, just based on the voices.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Randeep Sarai
I just want to be clear, even though we didn't have the clause carry, I have to say “Shall the bill carry?” and take it back.
I just want to be clear that voting “yes” and saying the bill carried doesn't mean you voted “yes” for the amendment.
Shall the bill as amended carry?
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An hon. member
Agreed.
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An hon. member
No.
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Liberal
Gary Anandasangaree Liberal Scarborough—Rouge Park, ON
I'm sorry. Mr. Chair, can I have a clarification, please?
Are we on the third vote or the fourth vote?
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Randeep Sarai
The title didn't carry. We're on the fourth one, which is “Shall the bill...?”—
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Liberal
Lena Metlege Diab Liberal Halifax West, NS
The Standing Orders mean you have to take it back, so yes.
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Liberal
Lena Metlege Diab Liberal Halifax West, NS
Can the clerk or somebody explain the process, please?
It could be the legislative clerk or somebody, because we're a bit confused.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Randeep Sarai
It's an unusual situation, so I'll let the clerk clarify.
Go ahead, Clerk.
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Philippe Méla Legislative Clerk
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Yes, indeed, the bill was amended by removing clause 1.
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Liberal
Lena Metlege Diab Liberal Halifax West, NS
Yes. By the Standing Orders, we have to report it back to the House anyway.
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NDP
Randall Garrison NDP Esquimalt—Saanich—Sooke, BC
That means we'll report it back as an empty bill just so everybody's clear.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Randeep Sarai
That's correct.
Okay. Let me get this right. There are two options for this.
If we say “Shall the bill as amended carry?”, it goes back as an empty shell, and then it's in the House. The other option is we could have a motion that the committee recommends the bill not proceed, and then we can vote on it that way.
I will go with the first, because it's already written here, it's a little easier for me and I don't want to get into any challenges.
Shall the bill as amended carry?
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Some hon. members
Agreed.
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Bloc
Rhéal Fortin Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC
Shall the bill [Inaudible—Editor] so it's not too late for voting?
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Randeep Sarai
It's a shell, so it's sent back with no clause. It won't even have a title.
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Liberal
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Some hon. members
Agreed.