We should deal in the harshest manner with the al-Qaeda Taliban, absolutely, but for those young men who can go either way, we need to find a way to make friends with them.
When I say we want to run pilot projects because we don't know if this is going to work, I mean that: we don't know if it's going to work. But I can tell you that poppy production is up. We've spent millions on cultivation. Anybody can go there and tell you that what we're doing now in counter-narcotics policy isn't working.
The first step is to say this is not working and ask what other things we would try. This is one of a portfolio of things we should try. As I said, it's been done by the United States elsewhere.