The reference points, I think, are emerging. As Colonel Irwin just reminded me, NATO did establish a new position of assistant secretary general for emerging security challenges. That may well be somebody the committee would like to hear from. I think he's a Hungarian.
That's exactly what they're grappling with. In fact, when he comes, he will be able to give you some insights, too. How do you transform the alliance to deal? At the moment, there aren't those clear parameters to be able to explain this exactly.