On this issue of procurement, when I look at the billions of dollars that are planned and are being spent on things like close combat vehicles, surely those aren't for expeditionary forces within Canada. Those are for dropping forces and tires and boots on the ground around the world.
On the issue of interest, it seems to some people that NATO is an artifact of a world that is passing us by, if it has not already passed us by, the whole transatlantic thing. I wonder if our defence interests should be shifting to a different orientation, perhaps one that is more specific. The United States has made the argument that their focus is now more to the west as opposed to the Atlantic. Could you comment on that?