I have to interrupt, because we only have a short period of time.
We've heard that time and again, but when clinicians have spoken out. For example, in Petawawa in 2012, one of the things they said was that the salaries are not competitive with similar positions outside the military. That's why clinicians will not work there. There is little incentive to go to a military town to work. Staff retention is at risk. There is no flexibility in the use of part-time workers, full-time workers, flex-time work, or a compressed work week. There is a high turnover of staff.
If a psychiatrist diagnoses a mental illness and needs to refer the patient, the wait time is unreasonable and the clinician ends up using supportive therapy and there's a waste of valuable resources. There seem to be barriers. It's not just that they can't find the people. There seems to be a failure to organize the work or to appeal to the people who are ready to provide the work if the conditions are right. Was that identified by your organization?