Well, I'm still of the opinion that the dots do not connect that way. There was great promise of having more integration between the ports of Murmansk and Churchill as a way to get out of the grain surplus problem that we had this summer in Winnipeg, because it was an outlet to get it out to European and Asian markets.
I was with Admiral Papp, who will be taking over as the U.S. ambassador to the Arctic Council, and never once, even when asked about Russia, was there any indication that the U.S. was looking to freeze them out. The great advantage of having Russia in something like the Arctic Council and working with them in these other fora is that there is that opportunity for the back-hall discussions about these other events.
For Russia, their backyard, which is the Ukraine, is geostrategically extremely important for them. For us and for Russia, it is the Arctic, and they do see them as being different.
NORAD has always been concerned about Russia. That's why their logo is the broadsword facing north. We will always watch them.
But to automatically assume that they have designs on the Arctic.... Remember, we have very little infrastructure up there, so I'm not sure what designs they're going to have. I think there are far more opportunities and advantages to having more discussions and links with them than there are in freezing them out pre-emptively.