I want to thank both witnesses for appearing today. I've been interested in your comments.
I want to come back quickly to BMD. In Canada, although we have not supported North American ballistic missile defence, we have been supportive of BMD that has been instituted in Europe as part of NATO. I am sure you are aware that the Senate has done a study on BMD, which we're considering quite closely.
With the rhetoric coming from Russia right now, everybody is extremely concerned with the seeming sabre-rattling every time Putin speaks, but we all know that BMD would never defend against a missile attack from Russia. However, let's talk about some of the other state and non-state players out there and the danger they represent.
From your two perspectives, how are we right now with the North Koreans? How are we with the Iranians' aspirations for nuclear warheads? We have already talked about the use of drones and the proliferation of cruise missiles to state and non-state players in recent years and about how they also present a major threat to North American security. Could you both comment on that?