Yes, BAE Systems. For example, they have.... I recently wrote a report on that. We have the munitions supply program. It's an utterly inefficient program that we have. What the Brits did was to say, “BAE Systems, you manage this”, because there you trade off security, security of supply, against the costs. Now what we do is security at any cost, while the Brits said, “We trade them off.”
On January 28th, 2015. See this statement in context.