Evidence of meeting #81 for National Defence in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Klaus Buchmüller  Head, International Division, Federal Agency for Technical Relief (THW)
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Hilary Smyth
Christopher Banks  Sergeant (Retired), As an Individual
Mike Ellis  Deputy Premier and Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Services, Government of Alberta
Mike Flannigan  BC Innovation Research Chair, Predictive Services, Emergency Management and Fire Science, Thompson Rivers University, As an Individual

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Liberal

Andy Fillmore Liberal Halifax, NS

Yes.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Okay. Are we all on the same page?

Go ahead, Madame Lalonde.

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Liberal

Marie-France Lalonde Liberal Orléans, ON

Mr. Chair, for clarity, could you or the clerk read it please?

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The Clerk of the Committee Ms. Hilary Smyth

First, I'm going to clarify.

We're looking to remove “and that the competition be done on an accelerated timeline”. It's that whole highlighted section.

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Liberal

Andy Fillmore Liberal Halifax, NS

We want to keep the “Canadian Multi-Mission Aircraft” part.

It would read “before awarding any procurement contract for the delivery of the new Canadian Multi-Mission Aircraft”.

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The Clerk

Okay. I will read this into the record. “That considering the joint statement of the respective Premiers of Quebec and Ontario dated November 7, 2023 concerning the public procurement of the CP-140 Aurora replacement by the federal government, the Committee is of the opinion that the government must proceed by way of a formal request for proposals before awarding any procurement contract—

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Conservative

James Bezan Conservative Selkirk—Interlake—Eastman, MB

It's “contract of the new”—

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The Clerk

It's “contract of the new Canadian Multi-Mission Aircraft”.

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Conservative

James Bezan Conservative Selkirk—Interlake—Eastman, MB

He is striking from “and” to “competition and delivery".

(Subamendment agreed to)

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

We will go back to Mr. Bezan's amendment, which would amend the motion as it's just been amended, except I'm not sure how I could read that.

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The Clerk

If you would like to suspend for a moment, I can send it.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Distribution would probably be helpful.

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An hon. member

You have to ask for a suspension.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

I'll just do one anyway.

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An hon. member

That's a violation of privilege.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Go ahead, Ms. Lalonde.

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Liberal

Marie-France Lalonde Liberal Orléans, ON

Mr. Chair, I would like to suspend.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

All those in favour?

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The Clerk

I can send it. We don't need to suspend.

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Conservative

Pat Kelly Conservative Calgary Rocky Ridge, AB

You have to have the consent of the committee to suspend. I merely ask for the courtesy of being asked before there is a suspension.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

You were asked, and you turned it down.

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Conservative

Pat Kelly Conservative Calgary Rocky Ridge, AB

I'm okay with suspending. If it takes a minute to—

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NDP

Lindsay Mathyssen NDP London—Fanshawe, ON

Mr. Chair, I'm hoping we can actually hear from the witnesses in the second hour. At what time do we have a hard stop?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

The hard stop is at six.

While we're waiting, I need someone to move a budget to cover the costs of the—

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A voice

We can't do that. We're in debate.