Some of the things I've heard from your members and PSAC members are that the hoped-for savings don't materialize. If the purpose of outsourcing is to save on pensions and maybe pay a lower hourly wage, then in the end, with the bump-up to pay the corporations, you don't really get that back. Do you want to talk about that at all in terms of the value for money?
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