Well, I already said that we felt he should have the right to respond to the comments Ms. Keen makes here. If they would like him to do that, then she could go first and he would certainly respond to them. If they choose not to do that, then we think the minister should have the right to respond and to react to whatever comments she would make.
If there's some reluctance to do that, we have to start to wonder what the real purpose is of this meeting.