I would just like to state that Mr. Anderson and I came here at the same time, and he was in opposition in those days. When staff would come from the departments, any questions could come forward. He asked lots of questions that weren't pertaining to the point at hand. How soon we forget, Mr. Anderson, the days of old.
I would like to go back to the question regarding the big cuts to the energy efficiency program. My numbers here are that it's $47 million this year. It's going to go up to $49 million or $50 million by 2014-15.
From what I know from back home in my riding, it was a very good program for individuals and companies. We have a company in my riding that produces high-efficiency windows, and their sales have gone pretty well flat because of the changes to this program.
From the department's point of view, and I know you guys are all into numbers, is there any number you have for what they spent? How much money was generated with that money that was available in those years? When you talk about $47 million or $48 million being spent, how much did it generate in the local economies? What is backfilling that? What programs or money do you have that will backfill what that program used to do?