Evidence of meeting #12 for Natural Resources in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendments.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Jeff Labonté  Director General, Energy Safety and Security Branch, Department of Natural Resources
Samuel Millar  Senior Director, Frontier Lands Management Division, Petroleum Resources Branch, Department of Natural Resources
Brenda Baxter  Acting Director General, Workplace Directorate, Labour Program, Department of Employment and Social Development
Anne-Marie Fortin  Senior Counsel, Legal Services, Department of Natural Resources

9:30 a.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

9:30 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Go ahead, Ms. Block.

9:30 a.m.

Conservative

Kelly Block Conservative Saskatoon—Rosetown—Biggar, SK

I would agree with that, as long as we have the opportunity to speak to it at that time. I would ask to be on that list.

9:30 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Sure. We'll come back to the normal debate on that. Absolutely.

Yes, Ms. Crockatt.

9:30 a.m.

Conservative

Joan Crockatt Conservative Calgary Centre, AB

I'm looking for clarification. I believe that we heard from the witness that this doesn't change anything significant in the labour code, if that was the concern across the table. I wonder if we could have clarification, because I believe that may be the question that Mr. Julian wants to get at.

9:35 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Mr. Julian, I'll let you speak for yourself, but I think you understand that, as that was explained, and you still have some concerns and want further discussion.

Mr. Julian, if that's not the case, would you like to respond to that?

9:35 a.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

I would just like us to come back to the matter and spend a few minutes on it. We have two other amendments. We could then come back to those two amendments that were set aside.

9:35 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Okay. So that is stood, by the way. I just allowed that discussion to take place.

Ms. Duncan.

9:35 a.m.

NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

I think it might help. I'm wondering if the witnesses have the Canada Labour Code with them, so we can take a look at subsection 140(2).

9:35 a.m.

Acting Director General, Workplace Directorate, Labour Program, Department of Employment and Social Development

Brenda Baxter

I don't have the labour code with me, but in the subsection they are referring to, the only change is to change the wording to include “or administrative proceeding”. The rest currently exists within the Canada Labour Code.

The purpose of this consequential amendment is to allow presentations to be made at administrative proceedings and not just civil proceedings, which include arbitration hearings.

9:35 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Ms. Duncan, if you want to refer to that particular part of the labour code, I'm sure somebody can get it electronically. That's being done right now. That clause is stood, so we can come back and deal with that.

(Clause 120 allowed to stand)

(On clause 121)

The next clause is clause 121. There is a proposed amendment.

That's not the one. I have the wrong one. We just go to a vote on clause 121. Shall clause 121 carry?

9:35 a.m.

Some hon. members

No.

On division.

9:35 a.m.

Liberal

Geoff Regan Liberal Halifax West, NS

Just a minute now—

9:35 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

I knew exactly what was happening there.

9:35 a.m.

Liberal

Geoff Regan Liberal Halifax West, NS

—let's not make a mess of this bill.

9:35 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Okay. So for clause 121, we're going to go to the vote now.

9:35 a.m.

Liberal

Geoff Regan Liberal Halifax West, NS

This is the clause, right? It's not an amendment.

9:35 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

No. That's right.

9:35 a.m.

Liberal

Geoff Regan Liberal Halifax West, NS

This was a normal part of the bill. Normally we'd be having a bunch of them at once, but there's only one by itself.

9:35 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Yes.

9:35 a.m.

Liberal

Geoff Regan Liberal Halifax West, NS

Maybe you should explain.

9:35 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

You'll see why, Mr. Regan.

9:35 a.m.

Liberal

Geoff Regan Liberal Halifax West, NS

There's a reason for this, is there? Maybe we should hear it.

9:35 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Do you want to hear an explanation then of why we're voting separately on clause 121? That's a good point.

9:35 a.m.

Liberal

Geoff Regan Liberal Halifax West, NS

Okay.