My next question follows up on that one. We've mostly concentrated on Ukraine, but we are looking at other eastern European and European countries, because they do interplay on this.
Again, I could go to the same two witnesses, but if the other two witnesses want to answer, they should indicate.
What is the infrastructure capability? How open are other countries in that area to similar measures? Are there other countries that could use a great boost in their energy efficiency, local production, etc., and are they open, for example, Moldova and Romania? We talked to Poland the other day. They seemed very open. How can we interact on that level with those other countries?
Do any of the witnesses have a comment about countries other than Ukraine, in a similar fashion?