In the case of those two premieres, what the federal government is doing is rather a premiere in Canada, whereby they accept the fact of going in to finance pre-commercial testing facilities. In the case of the nanocellulose with Domtar in Windsor, they facilitate about 50% of the plant. In the case of the CF in Trois-Rivières, it's about 40%. Being able to go toward pre-commercial financing is a first in Canada, and that has helped tremendously.
In the case of some of the other projects, such as the lignin extraction in Hinton, Alberta, it's the IFIT program, run by NRCan, that provides a less risky financial commercialization process. In the case of the lignin extraction, again the federal government, with the IFIT program, has been really instrumental in getting that new process in.
What the federal government has done as well, which I think is also very important, is to finance for three years a series of university centres of excellence in the forest sector. That has provided us with more than 27 universities and 130 professors as partners. We've put together over three years 400 to 500 master's and Ph.D. students. Those projects have been really helpful in going towards pre-commercial but also going towards making sure we provide highly qualified people.