Thank you, Mr. Angus, on the point of order.
Once again, I want to make sure we don't get into debate when we're having these points of order, because they're not meant for debate. The speaking order in debate is meant for debate.
I have Mr. Dreeshen on the point of order.
Mr. Dreeshen, there have been a number of points of order. Are you referring to Mr. Angus's, Mr. Patzer's or Ms. Stubbs'?
Okay. It's on Mr. Patzer's point of order.