Of course we should be able to produce a rather high skill level among our students. Unfortunately, to date, the only thing that was counted in immersion programs was the number of credits earned. I do not know if it works the same way in other provinces, but the number of credits does not mean anything in terms of the linguistic competency that we produce in our students, at the end of the day. That is what the programs lack.
For example, for children in grades 9, 10, 11, and 12, we knew how many credits had been earned in geography. We knew that if a student had 10 credits, he obtained an immersion certificate in Ontario. However, that says nothing about the students linguistic competency.
That is the other measure we are proposing. We should have a national conversation for that.