Evidence of meeting #2 for Official Languages in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was meeting.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Chad Mariage  Procedural Clerk

4:20 p.m.

NDP

Jamie Nicholls NDP Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC

It's just the framing of the current practice, so that it's clear and doesn't deviate from what we're already doing. There is no addition of red tape. They're not going to hire another clerk to figure this out. It's the practice that's already used; we're just describing it in a better way.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Mr. Gourde, you have the floor.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Jacques Gourde Conservative Lotbinière—Chutes-de-la-Chaudière, QC

I trust our clerk. He does not need any more instructions on how to do his job. I will vote against the motion.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Are there any further comments?

Okay, I will pass the floor to the clerk for a recorded vote.

I'll read the motion again before the clerk takes a recorded vote:

That 48 hours' notice be required for any substantive motion to be considered by the Committee, unless the substantive motion relates directly to business then under consideration; and that the notice of motion be filed with the Clerk of the Committee and distributed to members in both official languages, and that; (a) notice be emailed to the Clerk no later than 5:00 p.m. from Monday to Friday; (b) notice be distributed by e-mail to members in both official languages by the Clerk on the same day the said notice was transmitted if it was received no later than the deadline hour; (c) notices received after the deadline hour be deemed to have been received during the next business day; and (d) this rule does not prevent a member to give notice of a motion orally during a meeting of the Committee, in which case notice shall be deemed to have been given before the deadline that day.

Mr. Clerk—

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

John Williamson Conservative New Brunswick Southwest, NB

I'd like that in English as well, please.

4:25 p.m.

A voice

He has to listen to the translation.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

John Williamson Conservative New Brunswick Southwest, NB

I'm listening to it, and I don't think even the francophones get this, so I'd like to hear it in English.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Okay.

The motion is:

That 48 hours’ notice be required for any substantive motion to be considered by the Committee, unless the substantive motion relates directly to business then under consideration; and that the notice of motion be filed with the Clerk of the Committee and distributed to members in both official languages, and that; (a) notice be emailed to the Clerk no later than 5:00 p.m. from Monday to Friday; (b) notice be distributed by e-mail to members in both official languages by the Clerk on the same day the said notice was transmitted if it was received no later than the deadline hour; (c) notices received after the deadline hour be deemed to have been received during the next business day; and (d) this rule does not prevent a member to give notice of a motion orally during a meeting of the Committee, in which case notice shall be deemed to have been given before the deadline that day.

The clerk has the floor to call the vote.

(Motion negatived: nays 7; yeas 4)

Do we have any other routine motions for consideration?

Mr. Godin.

4:25 p.m.

NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

I move the motion on the witnesses' expenses.

That will be easy; the wording is the same as in the former motion:

That, if requested, reasonable travel, accommodation and living expenses be reimbursed to witnesses, not exceeding two (2) representatives per organization; and that, in exceptional circumstances, payment for more representatives be made at the discretion of the Chair.

I don't see how anyone would vote against that.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Is there any debate?

Is there no debate?

Okay.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Jacques Gourde Conservative Lotbinière—Chutes-de-la-Chaudière, QC

I would actually love to hear Mr. Dionne Labelle debate that issue.

4:25 p.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Seeing no further debate, I'll call the question.

(Motion agreed to)

Is there another routine motion that members wish to consider?

Monsieur Gourde.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Jacques Gourde Conservative Lotbinière—Chutes-de-la-Chaudière, QC

Mr. Chair, we have the following motion:

That the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure be composed of five (5) members including the Chair, the two Vice-Chairs, the Parliamentary Secretary for Official Languages and a member of the government party.

It is the second routine motion, without the amendment introduced earlier.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

We have a motion in front of us. Is everyone clear on the motion? Okay. Is there any debate on the motion?

Seeing none, I'll call the question.

(Motion agreed to)

Monsieur Gourde.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Jacques Gourde Conservative Lotbinière—Chutes-de-la-Chaudière, QC

Mr. Chair, I have another motion, this time on the reduced quorum:

That the Chair be authorized to hold meetings to receive evidence and to have that evidence printed when a quorum is not present, provided that at least four (4) members are present, including one (1) member of the opposition and one (1) member of the government party.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Thank you, Mr. Gourde.

Is there any debate on this motion?

Mr. Nicholls.

4:30 p.m.

NDP

Jamie Nicholls NDP Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC

Mr. Chair, in terms of debate, I find if unfortunate that we couldn't have “official opposition”. That's all; it's just to register that. Instead of just “opposition”, it should be “official opposition”.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Understood. Thank you.

You could always propose an amendment.

4:30 p.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

4:30 p.m.

NDP

Jamie Nicholls NDP Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC

I think we already did.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

We'll vote on the motion.

(Motion agreed to)

Mr. Gourde, the floor is yours.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Jacques Gourde Conservative Lotbinière—Chutes-de-la-Chaudière, QC

Mr. Chair, I have another routine motion. This one is about the distribution of documents:

That only the Clerk of the Committee be authorized to distribute to the members of the Committee any of the documents, including motions, and that all documents which are to be distributed among the Committee members must be in both official languages; and that the clerk shall advise in advance all witnesses appearing before the Committee of this requirement and inform them of the availability of translation services.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Thank you, Mr. Gourde.

Yes, Mr. Godin?

4:30 p.m.

NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

Mr. Chair, I just want to know which motion this is.