Evidence of meeting #75 for Official Languages in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was anand.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Audrée Dallaire
Anita Anand  President of the Treasury Board
Carsten Quell  Executive Director, Official Languages Centre of Excellence, Office of the Chief Human Resources Officer, Treasury Board Secretariat
Catherine Tait  President and Chief Executive Officer, CBC/Radio-Canada
Marco Dubé  Chief Transformation Officer and Executive Vice-President, People and Culture, CBC/Radio-Canada

5:20 p.m.

Liberal

Angelo Iacono Liberal Alfred-Pellan, QC

What measures have contributed to increasing the number of bilingual positions in Canada?

5:20 p.m.

President of the Treasury Board

Anita Anand

As I said, 96% of the positions are now bilingual. That means that the people who hold those positions already meet bilingualism requirements. We must therefore continue this work, which is the day-to-day work done by Carsten Quell and his team.

Mr. Carsten, you have the floor.

5:20 p.m.

Executive Director, Official Languages Centre of Excellence, Office of the Chief Human Resources Officer, Treasury Board Secretariat

Carsten Quell

Thank you.

At present, 42% of public service positions are designated bilingual. The government has ensured a balance that will offer unilingual francophones in Quebec and anglophones elsewhere the opportunity to make a career in the public service. When necessary, positions are designated bilingual, of course.

As the Minister has said, 96% of the people who hold bilingual positions meet the language requirements of their position.

5:20 p.m.

Liberal

Angelo Iacono Liberal Alfred-Pellan, QC

Thank you.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Joël Godin

Thank you, Mr. Iacono.

We will continue with a period of two-and-a-half-minute questions.

Mr. Beaulieu, you have the floor.

5:20 p.m.

Bloc

Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Ms. Anand, Treasury Board plays a key role in the federal government when it comes to implementing the Official Languages Act. There is a section in the new Act that states that one purpose of the Act is to "advance the existence of a majority-French society in a Quebec where the future of French is assured."

In relation to that section, have you thought of ways to comply with and implement the Act?

5:20 p.m.

President of the Treasury Board

Anita Anand

I am going to answer your question first and I will give my colleague the floor after.

We have to continue supporting the francophones of Quebec and the province of Quebec. The support needed for immigration is important. I know that my colleague Mr. Miller is working on that. As well, he has produced an immigration plan and he is working with Quebec.

As well, we know that there are areas in which the people in minority communities in Quebec have to get the support they need. We are continuing to provide that support.

5:20 p.m.

Bloc

Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

Have there been discussions about adopting measures that will support French in Quebec?

You mentioned official language minority communities, but Quebec also comprises a minority within Canada and is part of a linguistic minority in North America.

Have there been discussions about this? Do you intend to analyze the situation to make sure that there really are measures to protect French?

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Joël Godin

You have 15 seconds left, Mr. Beaulieu.

5:25 p.m.

Bloc

Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

Mr. Quell, you may also answer my question.

5:25 p.m.

President of the Treasury Board

Anita Anand

In Quebec, all services are offered in French. At present, there are services in French in...

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Joël Godin

Ms. Anand, I have to interrupt you.

Thank you.

Ms. Ashton, you have the floor for two and a half minutes.

5:25 p.m.

NDP

Niki Ashton NDP Churchill—Keewatinook Aski, MB

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I would like to make a comment.

I am aware of the Minister's personal history. I, too, am the daughter of immigrants who did not speak French when they arrived in Canada. My parents insisted that my brother and I learn French, in immersion, since French is one of the two official languages of Canada.

Acknowledging that French is declining highlights the importance of implementing Bill C‑13 and Treasury Board's responsibilities as soon as possible.

Given this situation, I hope Treasury Board is going to move matters along faster; at a meeting of the Standing Senate Committee on Official Languages, there was talk of two or three years.

We know that all federal institutions are required to comply with the Official Languages Act, including Part VII of the Act, which deals with the positive measures needed to ensure the development of the official language minority communities.

Do you intend to clarify the concept of positive measures in the regulations under Part VII?

5:25 p.m.

President of the Treasury Board

Anita Anand

The purpose of the regulations is to continue to ensure that the Act is more specific.

Of course, we are going to do that. However, my responsibility is to guide federal institutions and provide them with policies and advice so that they comply with all provisions of the Act. As Minister, I am going to continue to stress the importance of doing this.

If it is possible to implement the Act and the process faster, I will do it.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Joël Godin

Thank you, Ms. Ashton.

We will now begin a quick round of questions by the Conservative Party and the Liberal Party. We will start with Mr. Dalton.

Mr. Dalton, you now have the floor for two minutes.

November 8th, 2023 / 5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Marc Dalton Conservative Pitt Meadows—Maple Ridge, BC

Congratulations, Minister, on your appointment. I know you were put there to help put an end to some of the waste that's going on in government. I would say maybe that's the appearance of something happening, because the budget has increased by $10 billion in the past year, and one of your roles is to cut down $3 billion a year.

Do you not see it as ironic that KPMG was consulted with $670,000 of taxpayers' money to figure out how to reduce consultants?

Just give a simple yes or no.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Arielle Kayabaga Liberal London West, ON

That's not relevant.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Marc Dalton Conservative Pitt Meadows—Maple Ridge, BC

It's relevant.

5:25 p.m.

President of the Treasury Board

Anita Anand

That contract had nothing to do with me as President of the Treasury Board, in connection with the spending review. The Minister of Natural Resources decided to award that contract in 2022.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Marc Dalton Conservative Pitt Meadows—Maple Ridge, BC

Excuse me, Minister, because my time is so short.

The government has, in the past year alone, spent—

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Stéphane Lauzon Liberal Argenteuil—La Petite-Nation, QC

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Joël Godin

You have the floor, Mr. Lauzon.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Stéphane Lauzon Liberal Argenteuil—La Petite-Nation, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair...

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Joël Godin

Mr. Lauzon, unfortunately, you have not done the sound tests. To comply with procedure, could you ask someone else to state your point of order?

We cannot accept a communication when the sound tests have not been done.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Darrell Samson Liberal Sackville—Preston—Chezzetcook, NS

I will do it, if I may.