Who told you that?
Evidence of meeting #53 for Public Accounts in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was investigation.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Evidence of meeting #53 for Public Accounts in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was investigation.
A recording is available from Parliament.
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Staff Sergeant, Strategic and Operational Support, National Child Exploitation Coordination Centre, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
His name is Staff Sergeant Stephane St. Jacques.
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NDP
David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON
You said also that the backup was gone...something about the backup too, wasn't it?
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Staff Sergeant, Strategic and Operational Support, National Child Exploitation Coordination Centre, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Like Mr. Estabrooks, I kept a second copy.
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Voices
Oh, oh.
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Staff Sergeant, Strategic and Operational Support, National Child Exploitation Coordination Centre, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
I think it's quite a practice in the mounted police.
Mine did go missing from my desk, yes.
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NDP
David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON
Do you have any thoughts or knowledge about that, who ordered it?
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Staff Sergeant, Strategic and Operational Support, National Child Exploitation Coordination Centre, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
No, not at all.
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NDP
David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON
Can anybody here in uniform help me identify who might have given that order?
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Assistant Commissioner, Technical Operations, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
I'd only say that laptops are reusable within the organization, so if the data was eliminated from that, it would be because the laptop would be redeployed to another individual within the organization, rather than declare it surplus. So is it unusual? No. Is it unusual in this case? I guess you'd have to decide whether eliminating valuable information from a laptop is eliminating evidence. Normally, what we do is back up the drives. In other words, there should be some discs on the file containing all the e-mails and all the information as they pertain to that investigation, because in essence you may be eliminating crucial evidence that could be used at a future date.
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Assistant Commissioner, Technical Operations, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
I guess you'd have to talk to Chief Superintendent Doug Lang, because he's the only one who issued an order to Frizzell.
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Staff Sergeant, Strategic and Operational Support, National Child Exploitation Coordination Centre, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Only to clarify. My laptop came with me to the investigation and was leaving with me. It was one assigned to me, not to the investigation.
I believe, according to St. Jacques, it was the Ottawa Police Service that gave the order to have it wiped.
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Ottawa Police Service (Retired), As an Individual
Thank you. I'd like to answer this.
It was practice during this investigation because we were in temporary quarters, temporary equipment was being used, and everybody knew from the investigative team of the process that we followed. We started this in October, when the first member left the team, where the laptop was wiped. However, everything was being downloaded onto a CD and is being kept in the investigative file as of today.
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Staff Sergeant, Strategic and Operational Support, National Child Exploitation Coordination Centre, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
I've been trying....
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Liberal
Borys Wrzesnewskyj Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON
Thank you, Chair.
Mr. Sirois, how many years' experience do you have with the RCMP?
