Evidence of meeting #53 for Public Accounts in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was investigation.
A recording is available from Parliament.
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Liberal
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Conservative
John Williams Conservative Edmonton—St. Albert, AB
I'll just give you a notice of motion; you don't have to deal with it today.
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Conservative
John Williams Conservative Edmonton—St. Albert, AB
The notice of motion is that the public accounts committee ask the Library of Parliament to engage a forensic auditor to try to present all this information and e-mails and timelines and so on in some kind of understandable format so we can actually understand and have some sense as to what all is going on. I give that as a notice of motion. We can discuss that at the next meeting.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy
Thank you, Mr. Williams. We'll take that on notice.
Mr. Lake, five minutes, and then the meeting will adjourn at the end of five minutes, sharp.
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Conservative
Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB
Mr. Rogerson, just tying up some loose ends, we're wanting to know, were many of the same people involved in the gift-giving scandal investigated by the OPP and informally disciplined also involved in the problems with the pension and insurance funds?
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Assistant Commissioner, Technical Operations, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
I wouldn't say many, I would say a select few.
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Assistant Commissioner, Technical Operations, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
They would have been Jim Ewanovich and Deputy Gauvin, me, along with a number of other people.
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Conservative
Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB
Okay.
I want to move to Mr. Frizzell. It's been said over and over again, the semantics about the investigation being over. In your mind, should it have been over when it was over?
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Staff Sergeant, Strategic and Operational Support, National Child Exploitation Coordination Centre, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
In my mind, there were still things to investigate.
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Conservative
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Staff Sergeant, Strategic and Operational Support, National Child Exploitation Coordination Centre, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
I named one earlier.
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Conservative
Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB
Can you reiterate--and I think you've answered this before, but just for flow here--whether Ms. Burton and Ms. George were under investigation?
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Staff Sergeant, Strategic and Operational Support, National Child Exploitation Coordination Centre, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
“Under investigation” is too strong a term.
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Conservative
Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB
Maybe whether you were looking into some things, you were following some leads regarding—
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Staff Sergeant, Strategic and Operational Support, National Child Exploitation Coordination Centre, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
They would definitely have to be spoken to; they have information.
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Conservative
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Staff Sergeant, Strategic and Operational Support, National Child Exploitation Coordination Centre, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Mr. Roy sent me the information I was acting upon, so....
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Conservative
Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB
Okay. Now moving to Ms. George, Mr. Roy stated earlier that in 2001 he worked with the RCMP and reported to you, I believe. Can you tell us what his role was at that point?
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Deputy Commissioner, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
When I arrived there he had been reporting to another chief superintendent, so he was already on the spot. He was an inspector and he was doing a lot of support work for the two superintendents who were in officer staffing at the time. He was doing a lot of excellent work, but it was support work with Chief Superintendent Macaulay, who was the superintendent at the time, and another superintendent.
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Conservative
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Deputy Commissioner, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Well, no, he reported—
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Ottawa Police Service (Retired), As an Individual
May I answer?
I reported to the a civilian employee by the name of Dennis Fodor.
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Conservative
Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB
Okay, and you worked under, maybe not directly, Ms. George.