Chair, on the trust fund, as we mentioned, this is a policy decision and it is up to parliamentarians to make that judgment as to whether these are appropriate mechanisms. And on the transit as well, our role is really to provide you with the information so that parliamentarians can make the decision as to whether there's value for money.
We have indicated, and the commissioner has indicated, quite clearly that the expected results are negligible. But again, the measurement systems are not rigorous. No one will really know for two years what the actual cost of the program was.