If you didn't have contact with the deputy ministers or ministers, did you have contact with the offices, for example, the office of the director of the new generation fighter capability within National Defence, the office of the director general of defence and major projects directorate within Public Works and Government Services, or let's say, the office of the F-35 project manager, the director of continental materiel cooperation within National Defence? Was it at that level the audit occurred, in those offices, as opposed to the deputy ministers' and ministers' offices?
On April 26th, 2012. See this statement in context.