Mr. Chair, I'd be pleased to answer the question.
There's actually a two-part answer to this. We have had a chance in the last couple of days to review the Treasury Board Secretariat's action plan in response to our recommendations. They specify in there, as I understand it, that they're going to be providing guidance to departments on how to go out and gather results-based information so they can roll it up. On the one hand, that speaks to—and perhaps the secretariat could elaborate on this—how they would then have a consistent process for assessing results-based information. The other side of the coin that needs to be appreciated is that once that guidance is provided, departments can start collecting. But up to this date, to my knowledge, in what we saw until last July when we completed the audit, there was no results-based information gathered and rolled up. In terms of a five-year review that provides an assessment, it's not evident to us what the five-year review will be able to say was accomplished from a results base. Obviously they can speak to many activities.