Sure. I understand that the cost is immense, but you'd think that the cost was also part and parcel of the cost we're actually paying our own public service employees on those very same sites.
We have information supplied by my colleague who sits on the defence committee, Ms. Mathyssen, and was able to get information from your ministry in relation to how much you actually spend on public service employees.
Do you know that you spend more—almost double—on outsourcing than you do on the public employees who work for the ministry of defence? Are you aware of that fact?