Public Safety Committee on April 22nd, 2010

[Dave MacKenzie, Conservative, Oxford, ON]

I'm still talking.

[Mark Holland, Liberal, Ajax—Pickering, ON]

No, but I can challenge the chair. I have the right to challenge the chair. It's a non-debatable motion.

[Dave MacKenzie, Conservative, Oxford, ON]

You can challenge the chair all you want, Mr. Holland. That's been your history. If you don't get your own way, you want to challenge or run to your cameras.

[Mark Holland, Liberal, Ajax—Pickering, ON]

I'm challenging the chair. It's a non-debatable--

[Dave MacKenzie, Conservative, Oxford, ON]

Mr. Holland, you don't run the meeting. You don't control the meeting.

[Mark Holland, Liberal, Ajax—Pickering, ON]

It's a non-debatable motion, Mr. Chair.

[Dave MacKenzie, Conservative, Oxford, ON]

Surely you understand that.

[The Chair, Conservative, Garry Breitkreuz]

You are challenging the chair.

[Mark Holland, Liberal, Ajax—Pickering, ON]

I am.

[The Chair, Conservative, Garry Breitkreuz]

Can I make a comment first of all? The arguments I've heard from this side--

[Mark Holland, Liberal, Ajax—Pickering, ON]

Mr. Chair, it's a non-debatable motion.

[The Chair, Conservative, Garry Breitkreuz]

I'm not debating your motion. I just want to put something on the record.

We were given an order from the House of Commons, and the only objections I've heard about that are that it should have come from the government; it shouldn't be a private member's bill. We have to deal with this, and I'd like to deal with it, as soon as possible.

[Dave MacKenzie, Conservative, Oxford, ON]

On a point of order.

[Mark Holland, Liberal, Ajax—Pickering, ON]

There is no point of order. It's non-debatable.

[Dave MacKenzie, Conservative, Oxford, ON]

I'm talking. You don't interrupt.

[Mark Holland, Liberal, Ajax—Pickering, ON]

The chair made a determination. I'm challenging the chair.

[Dave MacKenzie, Conservative, Oxford, ON]

Let us finish.

[The Chair, Conservative, Garry Breitkreuz]

Mr. Holland, you can't bring in a motion on a point of order.

[Mark Holland, Liberal, Ajax—Pickering, ON]

Okay, but I'm challenging the chair on that point.

[The Chair, Conservative, Garry Breitkreuz]

It's 5:30. This meeting stands adjourned.