Evidence of meeting #37 for Public Safety and National Security in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site.) The winning word was chair.

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4:55 p.m.

Liberal

Hedy Fry Liberal Vancouver Centre, BC

It's okay. It was worth a try.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Daryl Kramp

It's always worth a try.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We go to LIB-28.

4:55 p.m.

Liberal

Hedy Fry Liberal Vancouver Centre, BC

It's the same rationale: it's too intrusive.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Daryl Kramp

Thank you.

We go to LIB-29.

4:55 p.m.

Liberal

Hedy Fry Liberal Vancouver Centre, BC

It's a similar rationale.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Daryl Kramp

We will now go to LIB-30.

4:55 p.m.

Liberal

Hedy Fry Liberal Vancouver Centre, BC

It contravenes the charter of rights, Mr. Chair.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Daryl Kramp

Is there any further discussion?

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Okay, now we go to NDP-8.

4:55 p.m.

NDP

Randall Garrison NDP Esquimalt—Juan de Fuca, BC

I'd like to move the motion.

As we've carefully saved our minute, I'll turn it over to Ms. Davies.

4:55 p.m.

NDP

Libby Davies NDP Vancouver East, BC

How much time do I have?

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Daryl Kramp

You have about a minute.

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NDP

Libby Davies NDP Vancouver East, BC

This proposes new language and new paragraphs. What we're trying to do with this amendment is to protect against any arbitrary or bad-faith action by the minister, for example, limiting an exemption to a very short time. We have seen that. We had a one-year exemption just renewed for InSite, which will force it to reapply yet again within one year.

This amendment would also protect against a site being shut down on some really innocuous or flimsy pretext without some some sort of due process and an opportunity to correct any minor problems that have arisen. In any operation there are issues that arise. So we're trying to protect against a site being shut down just because something did go wrong. Maybe it could have been corrected; maybe something was learned from it.

It would also effectively get rid of the requirement for applications to renew an exemption, because we think that once an application has been approved, it's there and should be able to continue.

That's the effect of this rather long amendment.

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Daryl Kramp

Thank you very much.

Ms. Ablonczy, go ahead.

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Diane Ablonczy Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

By the same token, if something is badly wrong, this removes the discretion of the minister to deal with it. I don't know how that's going to be helpful.

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Daryl Kramp

Thank you.

I don't see further discussion.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Ms. May, your time is up, but please speak briefly to your amendment number 10.

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Green

Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC

All right. Pitching for a miracle, I ask my friends across the way to consider Ephesians 3:20.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Daryl Kramp

Thank you very much.

Are there any other speakers? No.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We will now go to Liberal amendment number 31.

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Liberal

Hedy Fry Liberal Vancouver Centre, BC

Again, Mr. Chair, I don't have time to speak, I'm told.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Daryl Kramp

Pardon?

5 p.m.

Liberal

Hedy Fry Liberal Vancouver Centre, BC

Do I have any time to speak?

5 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Daryl Kramp

No, you have no time to speak, but you can propose the amendment.

5 p.m.

Liberal

Hedy Fry Liberal Vancouver Centre, BC

Yes, I am proposing the amendment.

5 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Daryl Kramp

Thank you very much.

Are there any other comments?

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We will now go to NDP amendment number 9.

5 p.m.

NDP

Randall Garrison NDP Esquimalt—Juan de Fuca, BC

I'd like to move the amendment. If there is any time remaining, I'd like to turn those few seconds over to Ms. Davies.

5 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Daryl Kramp

Ms. Davies, go ahead.