Evidence of meeting #75 for Science and Research in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was office.

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MPs speaking

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Mona Nemer  Chief Science Advisor, Office of the Chief Science Advisor

12:45 p.m.

Chief Science Advisor, Office of the Chief Science Advisor

Dr. Mona Nemer

I have not, myself.

12:45 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Maguire Conservative Brandon—Souris, MB

Has your department had discussions with them?

12:45 p.m.

Chief Science Advisor, Office of the Chief Science Advisor

Dr. Mona Nemer

They have, with different folks. I'm sorry. I don't remember their names, but we can certainly forward them.

I can tell you we're taking this seriously and speaking with.... I'm sorry.

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Lloyd Longfield

Go ahead.

12:45 p.m.

Chief Science Advisor, Office of the Chief Science Advisor

Dr. Mona Nemer

I just want to say that we're taking a very thorough approach to this and making sure our recommendations will be based on the best evidence and interactions we've had.

12:45 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Maguire Conservative Brandon—Souris, MB

Thanks so much.

12:50 p.m.

Conservative

Corey Tochor Conservative Saskatoon—University, SK

We're going to give the last minute to Maxime for his question.

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Lloyd Longfield

There are about 20 seconds left.

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Bloc

Maxime Blanchette-Joncas Bloc Rimouski-Neigette—Témiscouata—Les Basques, QC

Thank you.

Ms. Nemer, you have drawn up a roadmap for open science. Have you ever recommended that the government set up a national archive bank, a national archive platform like the one that exists in France?

12:50 p.m.

Chief Science Advisor, Office of the Chief Science Advisor

Dr. Mona Nemer

We have just launched the open science platform for publications that, for the time being, come from federal government researchers. I hope that it will eventually include researchers outside the government who benefit from federal government grants.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Lloyd Longfield

Thank you.

Mr. Turnbull, bring us home in four minutes, please.

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Liberal

Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON

Thanks, Chair. It's great to have a bit more time.

Dr. Nemer, thank you again for all your testimony today.

I want to go back to misinformation or disinformation, because it's something that I know you've said is a threat to science and our democracy.

Where do you think disinformation and misinformation are having the biggest impact on Canadians' confidence in science?

12:50 p.m.

Chief Science Advisor, Office of the Chief Science Advisor

Dr. Mona Nemer

This is a good question.

I don't believe we have the kind of data that will allow us to answer your question appropriately. However, the Council of Canadian Academies put out a study that suggests that disinformation during the pandemic actually cost Canadians their lives, and a lot of funding and resources as well.

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON

I mentioned vaccine hesitancy as one of the impacts it's probably having. Are there other areas where you can see impacts—where disinformation is acute, in the sense that the impact is noticeable and concerning to you?

12:50 p.m.

Chief Science Advisor, Office of the Chief Science Advisor

Dr. Mona Nemer

Any societal question can become a target for disinformation.

Personally, I worry about, for example, disinformation when it comes to climate change adaptation and mitigation. We just can't afford to have ongoing disinformation in that area.

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON

Is there any question in your mind about the reality of climate change, given the scientific evidence?

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Chief Science Advisor, Office of the Chief Science Advisor

Dr. Mona Nemer

Do you mean whether it's happening?

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Liberal

Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON

Yes.

12:50 p.m.

Chief Science Advisor, Office of the Chief Science Advisor

Dr. Mona Nemer

I have none whatsoever. The data is clear.

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Liberal

Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON

It's 100% clear, from your perspective. It's clear that science says climate change is real.

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Chief Science Advisor, Office of the Chief Science Advisor

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Liberal

Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON

Great. I agree with you. I just wanted to get that on the record.

How much more time do I have?

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Lloyd Longfield

You have one and a half minutes.

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Liberal

Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON

You're so generous.

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Lloyd Longfield

Yes.