I was going to move to that one next.
Mr. Rockel, you talked about that leadership training, how you train the next person. Well, I bet I'm looking at three people who've done a lot of training with the next set of board members, or the next group of persons in an associated co-op or on boards of directors—on governance and that type of thing.
I know that's how it happens in rural Ontario, whether it's the manager of my local credit union and the other boards he may sit on, and the training that happens—because it happens.
I bet I'm looking at three of you who have done a fair bit of that. It may not be organized, but I bet in some cases it is. I know we have mentoring programs for business and for not-for-profit boards, and I bet you've done the same thing.
Would that be true?