I agree with you, because first you start out looking after children and then you're looking after others, and by the time you're in and out of the labour force and are finished—I've always said that today's caregivers are tomorrow's poor seniors, because we just don't have the ability to build up a proper pension—that is, for women. So I agree with you.
I want to go to Ms. Smith for a minute. Could you expand for me very briefly on the Italian structure? I have a few questions for you, but take that one. You say in your recommendation on pension benefits for caregivers, “as in Italy”. Can you tell me what that means, how it works exactly? We haven't looked at other models, and we should do that. But since you're here—