For Marie-Thérèse, Gisèle, and I, the question of pay equity is dealt with away from the normal bargaining table. Certainly it's in negotiations, but it's not part of the normal bargaining. The union has access to all of the information about the pay scales, pay inequities, and all that sort of stuff. The employer is responsible for closing the wage gap. It's not left as a dual responsibility so that somehow the union is supposed to help pay for it.
There are timelines, and there is a pay equity commission that continues to look at this. There's a whole list of things that we gave in our presentation. The set-aside of money is critically important. You can't just put the money in and say, “We're going to the bargaining table, and this amount of money will go for the settlement. And by the way, pay equity has to come out of that.” It doesn't work that way.