I can't remember that far back, and I don't have access to information from the department anymore. Now, what I would like to suggest, though, is that in Rome, this is not a status of women committee. It is not the status of women minister who was there; it was the Minister of Foreign Affairs who presented in Rome, because this was speaking to the foreign affairs component of this.
When I was minister, I can say now, we never changed the language at all. At the United Nations, that was the accepted language, at CIDA it was the accepted language, and it continued to be the accepted language.
I think we need to be very clear what language we're speaking to. The Minister for Status of Women would not be speaking to issues of “impunity” and would not be speaking to issues of CIDA. The minister for CIDA would be speaking to those issues. But it's my understanding that CIDA only spoke to the issue of “equality between men and women” and “gender equality”. The other issues that one is discussing here are issues of taking “humanitarian” out of international humanitarian law, etc., which would directly be associated with the Minister of Foreign Affairs.
It is not my understanding that this was ever done in 1998. The only thing that was referred to by the witness concerning 1998 was the interchangeability of language in “equality between men and women” and “gender equality”. That was the only thing that was used interchangeably in Rome.