With the lack of access to care, you have to remember that one of the biggest reasons for developing a mental health issue around pregnancy and postpartum is lack of social support. We could prevent it so easily with some pretty low-intensity, low-cost interventions. That's why I made the second point that I did, and Dr. Singla raised this as well, that short-term, structured psychotherapies can be delivered by lay individuals. They can be delivered by public health nurses. They can be delivered in remote areas. Because of virtual medicine and telemedicine, we can do supervision.
We have ways we can help people. People should receive care in their communities because the other issue, as you said, is that you want to understand the experience of being a refugee or the experience of being indigenous.