Is it good now? Okay.
In certain cases, the judge can apply Gladue principles so that they'll look at alternative forms of justice. For example, if they know that the case is a result of certain behaviours that are clearly connected with colonial trauma, going to a healing centre instead of being incarcerated.... I'll give you an example. Let's say that you go to residential school, and you spend 10 years in incarceration. Then you have somebody who's been incarcerated for most of their life. When they leave jail, it won't have changed their behaviour. If it's about changing behaviour and ending violence, tough-on-crime approaches don't work with violence. You have to look at each case and individual differently and take the history into consideration in the ruling, and that's why we have the Gladue principles.
In B.C., they've done a really good job. They have a really robust program using the Gladue principles. There's high success, and we see less recidivism. That's why I put the amendment forward.