Evidence of meeting #50 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Brock Winter  Senior Vice-President, Operations, Canadian Pacific Railway
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Mark D'Amore

8:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Thank you, Mr. Volpe.

Just on Mr. Fast's subamendment, it can be in order if the committee agrees to set a time limit on itself. It's a debatable motion. Basically what Mr. Fast's subamendment is saying, on top of Mr. Jean's original motion that all three votes take place on or before 5:30, is that the committee shall not rise until all motions are disposed of at the end of business Wednesday. Now, that is open for debate.

Am I correct?

8:55 p.m.

Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

Not on Wednesday; I never referred to Wednesday.

8:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Okay, I'm sorry.

8:55 p.m.

Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

The committee shall not rise until the issue is disposed of.

And when we're talking about the issue, we're talking about—

8:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

All of the motions, yes. So that would include Mr. Bélanger's motion, the amendment, and your motion.

8:55 p.m.

Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

And include any further motions.

8:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Or any motion with unanimous consent—or just with consent? I'm just wanting the committee to be very clear on what we're debating here.

Is that understandable then? Does everyone understand what the subamendment is saying, that basically all motions and amendments on the floor today will be dealt with at the end of the Wednesday meeting, whatever time that happens to be? Or if there's an agreement on a separate motion by all members, it would supersede the motions and amendments we have before us.

8:55 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

To be clear, it would be the motions that would be brought forward dealing with remailers. Those would not be unanimous motions, as I don't think we're going to find unanimity anywhere in this. But the issue of remailing will be dealt with: we can only be pro or con on that, because those are the only two issues here.

8:55 p.m.

Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

It cannot be superseded by any other motion to adjourn or to suspend.

8:55 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Then we'd be frustrating this. We're going to deal with it on Wednesday one way or another.

8:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

It would be inadmissible to say that in a motion; we cannot put those kinds of limitations on that.

8:55 p.m.

Liberal

Joe Volpe Liberal Eglinton—Lawrence, ON

We haven't even seen the motion.

8:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

That motion, as understandable as it is, is open for debate.

Do you want me to continue with the conversation while we're drafting this?

I'd better check with Mr. Fast. Can we continue with debate, or would you want to wait until the subamendment is done?

8:55 p.m.

Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

I'd like to wait until the subamendment is done.

9 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Then I'll read it into the record. Fair ball, because that will be what we're debating.

The original motion was that the committee suspend debate until Wednesday, and it was amended by Mr. Jean basically to the effect that all motions would be voted on by 5:30. That has been subamended by Mr. Fast, so that we replace Mr. Jean's amendment with, “and that the committee not rise until all existing motions and any new motions dealing with remailers are disposed of”.

Does everyone understand that?

So we are now debating the subamendment.

Mr. Bagnell.

9 p.m.

Liberal

Larry Bagnell Liberal Yukon, YT

I move that we adjourn the meeting.

9 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

This is a non-debatable motion, which basically moves everything that has been moved or amended or subamended this afternoon off the table.

(Motion agreed to)

The meeting is adjourned until Monday at 3:30.