Evidence of meeting #95 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.
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Conservative
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke
Dr. Lewis, you've confirmed that you'd like to challenge the chair.
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Liberal
Vance Badawey Liberal Niagara Centre, ON
Actually, you are finished. You're challenging the chair, so we have to go to a vote.
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Conservative
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Conservative
Leslyn Lewis Conservative Haldimand—Norfolk, ON
Excuse me. I'm not your wife. You cannot speak to me like that.
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Liberal
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Conservative
Leslyn Lewis Conservative Haldimand—Norfolk, ON
No, you don't talk to me that way. You don't talk to me that way. You don't point your finger at me and you don't tell me when I'm finished. I am your colleague—
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Liberal
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke
I call this meeting back to order.
I will now turn it over to the clerk for a vote on the challenging of the chair by Dr. Lewis.
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The Clerk
You're voting on challenging the ruling of the chair. If you vote yes, you are confirming the decision of the chair. If you vote no, you are contesting the decision of the chair.
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An hon. member
Could you repeat that?
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The Clerk
Yes, for sure.
I was explaining that if you are voting yes, you are confirming the decision of the chair. If you are voting no, you are voting against the decision of the chair.
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Conservative
Leslyn Lewis Conservative Haldimand—Norfolk, ON
What is the decision of the chair that we're voting on—exactly what decision? I understood the chair to say that he did not shut down debate. What is it that we're voting on, please? Is it on whether the chair was correct in shutting down debate, pursuant to Standing Order 116? Is that what we're voting on?
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke
It's on whether or not I denied Mr. Strahl his right to speak and whether or not Mr. Badawey had a right, once I gave the floor to Mr. Badawey, to move a motion to adjourn, which is a dilatory motion that he has the right to put forward. That is what we are voting on—whether or not I was right, as the chair, to do that.
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Conservative
Leslyn Lewis Conservative Haldimand—Norfolk, ON
I'm seeking clarification. We're voting on whether or not, pursuant to Standing Order 116, you had the right to permit shutting down debate, contrary to the Standing Orders. That's what we're voting on.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke
I did not shut down debate. Mr. Badawey put forward a dilatory motion to end it.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke
It's not an improper motion. I conferred with the clerk to ensure that it wasn't an improper motion.
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Conservative
Leslyn Lewis Conservative Haldimand—Norfolk, ON
But Standing Order 116 clearly says that it's an improper motion.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke
It does not, Dr. Lewis. I have two clerks, one to the left and one to the right of me, one of whom I conferred with to ensure that Mr. Badawey was in his right to do just that. I received confirmation that he was. This wasn't something that I unilaterally went forward with, Dr. Lewis. This is something on which I conferred with the clerk before continuing.
What we're voting on right now, as per your request, is whether or not my turning the floor over to Mr. Badawey and Mr. Badawey's putting forward a dilatory motion to adjourn debate on that motion was in order. Sustaining the ruling by voting yes means that you are in favour of the rulings that I made with regard to the process that I took.
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Conservative
Leslyn Lewis Conservative Haldimand—Norfolk, ON
You took the process in shutting down debate. That's what we're voting on, whether or not that process....
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke
Dr. Lewis, you can try to twist it any way you want. I followed, Dr. Lewis—
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Conservative
Leslyn Lewis Conservative Haldimand—Norfolk, ON
No, it's not twisting it. I'm asking you, pursuant to the rules if we are voting.... It's simple.