I'll answer until I get into trouble and Ken kicks me under the table. I've been getting a lot of kicks in the last few minutes.
On one of the questions you asked, I alluded earlier to the senior international forum--which includes the likes of me, Ken, and the deputy minister--of five countries, including Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the U.K., and the U.S. We've been knocking ideas around like the ones you'll probably be discussing in this deliberation of the committee. It's very valuable. There's no reason why you cannot have the results of those discussions. I think the minister will probably want to give you those.
So there's the senior international forum of public servants and then there's the ministerial forum. That one is ongoing in Washington right now. It is the supervising committee to the senior international forum. It's had three meetings. The last two were in Paris, and then there's one in Washington. It talks about issues of political and policy concern to all the Commonwealth countries in there--not all the G-8, although there are two or three members of the G-8 in there. So it's very valuable. As I was saying at the beginning, your investigation into that area is bound to pay dividends in your work on veterans in Canada.
On PTSD and OSI, we have made great strides. We have some distance to travel. From my point of view, and I've been at this for a while—some would say since the War of the Roses—the focus should be on recovery. It's one thing to be able to identify a problem and intervene early, but the biggest hope for these individuals is to recover from it as much as possible--both the people who serve and the individuals who transfer to civilian life. So the transition to civilian life for someone with both a physical impairment and a psychological impairment—and they tend to come in twins by the way, one tends to lead to the other—is really very difficult. That's where we're increasingly focusing our energy, as is National Defence. Any advice and guidance you have in that area would be very welcome.