I just have a point to clarify. It's serving members I spoke to, not with the veterans.
Some of the concerns they have raised are the location. They have to travel hours to get to these clinics. Sometimes it takes four or five hours within the clinic setting, so they have to travel the night before, and now it has become a cost issue.
I know that one member I spoke with had to travel for four and a half hours to a clinic, so he had to go the night before. We can appreciate their concerns as well. They take their spouse to this clinic to talk with a psychologist, so they take their private vehicle. It's a four and a half hour drive at 45¢, or whatever the mileage rate is. It starts to add up—a hotel room, per diems, etc.—so there are suggestions that they deal with the local centre now because of cost. That's a concern, because of location. I wouldn't say this is a large centre, but there are psychologists. There are about six psychologists within the community, but not trained in OSISS. The nearest OSISS is in the neighbouring province, so there is that consideration.
Some of the concerns are that you're talking within the military, and some of the concerns that are discussed there are totally different. They don't get what IEDs or roadside bombs are, or that type of thing, so it's hard.