Evidence of meeting #31 for Veterans Affairs in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was priority.
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4:15 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Greg Kerr
Yes. But then there's a chance for someone to propose a different amendment. I just make that point for the record.
I know there were a couple of hands raised.
I have Mr. Galipeau and Mr. Gill.
4:15 p.m.
Conservative
Royal Galipeau Conservative Ottawa—Orléans, ON
You can go to Mr. Gill, provided I get a chance at it.
4:15 p.m.
Conservative
Parm Gill Conservative Brampton—Springdale, ON
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Just in response to Mr. Stoffer's question earlier, right now obviously the intent is to get this bill through as quickly as possible.
With regard to other suggestions and I think wonderful initiatives that you have brought forward, we are happy to look at those, moving forward.
4:15 p.m.
Conservative
Royal Galipeau Conservative Ottawa—Orléans, ON
In a way I'm happy that I opened up this can of worms and happy for the good will that it might have created around this table and the trust it might have engendered. I hope we don't betray that trust.
Thank you, sir.
4:15 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Greg Kerr
Thank you very much. This has been the nature of the way we have dealt with matters; I hope it will continue.
Are there any other—?
4:15 p.m.
Liberal
4:15 p.m.
Liberal
4:15 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Greg Kerr
You don't have to wait 30 days. I'll come back to you on that.
I have a question for the experts: if there is a vote on this amendment and it is defeated.... You seem to be looking for a replacement one, and if it comes forward and is passed, it still would mean that we would not vote on the NDP amendment.
Am I correct, that it would still push that one away? Or does it follow after that one?
October 29th, 2014 / 4:15 p.m.
Chloé O'Shaughnessy Procedural Clerk
We are still going to go to the NDP amendment first, because the change you are proposing, Mr. Valeriote, would I believe bring us to line 34 of this page of the bill; you would change paragraphs (a) to (e), and it would now be paragraphs (a) to (f). That would be the amendment you want to bring.
Technically the NDP-2 amendment starts at line 33, which is one line before that.
4:15 p.m.
Procedural Clerk
So if amendment PV-3 fails, then we would go to the NDP amendment. If that fails, then we would go to any amendment you would bring forward to that line.
4:20 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Greg Kerr
So if we're through discussion on the Green Party amendment—and we've had lots of conversation—I'm going to call the vote.
(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])
That amendment is defeated, and as you just heard, because of the process here, we are now going to go to the NDP amendment on clause 12.
I will go to Mr. Stoffer, I gather, for the NDP.
4:20 p.m.
NDP
Sylvain Chicoine NDP Châteauguay—Saint-Constant, QC
I would like to add a few words at the end of the amendment. That means that I would like to amend the amendment. Is it possible to do that?
4:20 p.m.
NDP
Sylvain Chicoine NDP Châteauguay—Saint-Constant, QC
So I would like to make a subamendment. It would read as follows:
That Bill C-27, in Clause 12, be amended by replacing lines 33 to 36 on page 4 with the following:
person who, being a veteran, died from causes arising during the service by virtue of which the person became a veteran or of a former member of the Canadian Forces who died as a result of a service-related injury or disease within the meaning of the Canadian Forces Members and Veterans Re-establishment and Compensation Act or Pension Act.
4:20 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Greg Kerr
They are consulting all over the place here.
Just give us a moment, please.
4:23 p.m.
NDP
John Rafferty NDP Thunder Bay—Rainy River, ON
I'll read the amendment with the changes so everybody is clear on what we're talking about here.
It's “person who, being a veteran, died from causes arising during the service by virtue of which the”—former member instead of person—“the former member became a veteran or of a person who died as a result of a service-related injury or disease within the meaning of the Canadian Forces Members and Veterans Re-establishment and Compensation Act”, or Pension Act.
It's those two small changes, just so everybody's clear on what we're talking about.
4:23 p.m.
Conservative
4:23 p.m.
NDP
John Rafferty NDP Thunder Bay—Rainy River, ON
Oh, I'm sorry, let me clarify my clarification.
It's not the first time that “person” is mentioned; it's the second time “person” is mentioned. So it's “which the person became a veteran or of a former member who died as a result of”, and so on. Just so that's clear.
