That's a fascinating and interesting question. First, I don't think I have the data to provide an answer to that, but I can give you what my opinion would be, just so I clarify that. Not everyone who transitions out of the Canadian Forces necessarily needs a mental health worker. If somebody has a medical condition, then it's probably that individual who is struggling more. I think if you're retiring from the military—and this is from my clinical experience—and you're retiring because you chose to retire, then I think that's a different situation from one where you are forced to retire because you have a medical condition.
In those cases, I think the biggest challenge I hear from many veterans and still-serving members is how to access and coordinate services. If you can imagine, when you're still serving, health care is provided for you and is directed to you. As civilians, because I'm not a military person, we are used to being self-directed in order to access services. For somebody in the military, that's a particular challenge. We've talked about, in other committees, the need of having a navigator, as somebody who could help them coordinate the services and learn how to access care. For a civilian, it's a challenge. If you can imagine somebody who has never done it before and who has a mental condition, it's a particular challenge.
Sorry for going over.